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Tim Cook’s Message to 2019 Graduates: ‘My Generation Has Failed You’

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Re: Tim Cook’s Message to 2019 Graduates: ‘My Generation Has Failed You’

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Post by hndamien »

crankylinuxuser wrote: post #62
lucasmullens wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about the definition of "dead weight", people are downvoting you because it's a fairly mean phrase to use to refer to your fellow human beings.

Animats may be saying thats what a capitalist system treats the downtrodden, but the actual actions are by that very capitalist system. In order to face a problem, you have to be able to talk about it. And capitalism stratifies the "work" and "cannot work" brutally. And as a killing blow, then proceeds to separate food/shelter/communications and the means to try to make oneself better. In this way, capitalism forces…

Bailing out the banks and instituting QE is not capitalism.

Re: Tim Cook’s Message to 2019 Graduates: ‘My Generation Has Failed You’

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Post by thedragonline »

briandear wrote: post #73
apo wrote: post #52

Context is important. The qualifier at the beginning of the sentence is important: > In some important ways, my generation has failed you in this regard [being too cautious]. We spent too much time debating. We've been too focused on the fight and not focused enough on progress. And you don't need to look far to find an example of that failure. Here today, in this very place, in an arena where thousands once found de…

> Anyone who believes that climate change is caused mostly by human activity should be concerned about this trend. The deeply political nature of the conversation has turned what should be a deliberate discussion about science and policy into a shouting match. The problem isn’t the science as much as the proposed solutions. The more extreme solutions are more about income redistribution rather than actual science. Wh…

>I am loathe to support the attempted destruction of capitalism based on unreliable computer models.

That's a whopper. Have you worked with modelled climate data for any length of time? Or at all? In a past life, I became intimately familiar with the A1B1 data from half a dozen institutions. Collectively they did NOT present a pretty picture. IIRC by about 2050 climate change will really start to bite and make life miserable for us humans. But even if those models are hopelessly wrong (which I doubt), isn't it worth taking a conservative tack anyway with regard to the environment? Or should we just gamble with the future and hope that our energy intensive ways do not result, for example, in systemic crop failure that, in turn, leads to capitalism's self-immolation.

Re: Tim Cook’s Message to 2019 Graduates: ‘My Generation Has Failed You’

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Post by [deleted] »

rootoor wrote: post #101
NE2z2T9qi wrote: post #24

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What are you asking for? The world has changed drastically, culture and preferences have changed drastically, and new technological tools make the job and economic landscape entirely different than earlier. That's not Baby Boomers' fault. Are you really going to blame them for not predicting the future well enough? Baby boomers aren't forcing young folks to like living in cities more than suburbs. They're not malicio…

> what are you asking for? I want cooperation. Younger people, myself included, want policy changes that will attempt to mitigate some of the damage done by the previous generation. However, boomers are still in power and actively resist changes that attempt to curb issues like climate change and income inequality. I think this is where a lot of resentment comes from. Additionally boomers will be dead before the cons…

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Post by bumby »

darepublic wrote: post #110
rootoor wrote: post #101

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> what are you asking for? I want cooperation. Younger people, myself included, want policy changes that will attempt to mitigate some of the damage done by the previous generation. However, boomers are still in power and actively resist changes that attempt to curb issues like climate change and income inequality. I think this is where a lot of resentment comes from. Additionally boomers will be dead before the cons…

To me this story of boomers callously enriching themselves at the expense of future generations sounds like just a bigoted unfounded accusation. Talk about not taking responsibility.. foisting all your problems onto the parent generation as if you yourself have no agency to tackle these challenges. Maybe the millenials will be blamed by the next generation for just burying themselves in video games and drugs at the t…

There's nothing wrong with future generations holding millennials responsible for their actions as well. It doesn't negate the argument and is a fairly weak position to take

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Post by mc32 »

rootoor wrote: post #115
darepublic wrote: post #110

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To me this story of boomers callously enriching themselves at the expense of future generations sounds like just a bigoted unfounded accusation. Talk about not taking responsibility.. foisting all your problems onto the parent generation as if you yourself have no agency to tackle these challenges. Maybe the millenials will be blamed by the next generation for just burying themselves in video games and drugs at the t…

I never said anything about boomers enriching themselves at the expense of future generations. I think blaming younger generations for not taking responsibility for what was handed to them is unfair. We are trying to fix things, however it is difficult when the people in power (who happen to be boomers) will not allow progress. That resistance to change and the resulting resentment is what I was attempting to discuss…

When people say "boomers" do they mean "boomers" world-wide, or do they mean "boomers" as in American "boomers"? I ask because everyone is part of this thing, but some people may think only American boomers have partaken in the above ascribed behavior.

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Post by ibeckermayer »

askafriend wrote: post #88
ibeckermayer wrote: post #64

Tim Cook can blabber all he wants about his supposed concerned about filter bubbles — his company, on his watch, is banning alternative social media platforms from putting apps on his App Store (Gab, for example). While he spouts off about taking action instead of debating, he actively bans alternatives to the status-quo. Shut it, Tim. I don’t buy your propaganda.

Gab is extremely toxic trash...I can completely see why they'd ban it.

Great point from a brilliant mind. You should decide for everybody what ideas they can and can't see on the internet, and what applications they can and can't download onto their hardware. Thanks for watching out for all of us.

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Post by askafriend »

newfriend wrote: post #99
askafriend wrote: post #88

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Gab is extremely toxic trash...I can completely see why they'd ban it.

I've decided your comment is toxic, you should be banned.

If you own the site, feel free to ban me. You have every right to.

Apple doesn't want Gab on their platform? Well it's Apple's platform, so you have to play by their rules. If you don't like it, you can go create your own technology.

That's how this works.

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Post by dang »

skellington wrote: post #70
tedivm wrote: post #9

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I think there are numerous ways in which Tim Cook's generation has failed the next generation (at least in the US). * Wages are flat, * Housing costs are up (in large part due to NIMBYism), * College is more expensive (in large part due to Cook's generation cutting subsidies that they got), * Environment is shot- that whole global warming thing isn't going away anytime soon. Generally speaking the baby boomers, as a…

Ah we found the true millenial! Boo hoo you guys haven't given us amazing wage growth in an era where we're all competing with cheap overseas labor so we can buy new homes at 25 plus Apple gadgets and endless media. And we had to pay :'( for our fancy degrees with housing included at elite schools in distant states because community college and nearby colleges aren't good enough for us...and you didn't solve all of t…

Please don't post flamewar comments like this. We ban accounts that do.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by ChristianGeek »

apo wrote: post #52

Context is important. The qualifier at the beginning of the sentence is important: > In some important ways, my generation has failed you in this regard [being too cautious]. We spent too much time debating. We've been too focused on the fight and not focused enough on progress. And you don't need to look far to find an example of that failure. Here today, in this very place, in an arena where thousands once found de…

Tim Cook’s Apple has definitely failed me.
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