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People see it as more acceptable to make passionate employees do extra: study

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Re: People see it as more acceptable to make passionate employees do extra: study

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If you hate your job, someone may be taking advantage of you. If you love your job, someone may be taking advantage of you. Someone may be taking advantage of you. Or not. Who knows?

This is what the oppressor vs oppressed narrative will get you. A constant state of trying to identify the group that is exploiting another even when such thing does not exist.

Re: People see it as more acceptable to make passionate employees do extra: study

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If I love my job, then I'm not being taken advantage of (from my perspective). If I'm being taken advantage of, that is a strong force to get me to hate my job. Whether or not my supervisors think they're taking advantage of me is a different matter, and one that is largely irrelevant to me.

Its like if spanking was your fetish but the person spanking you believes they are punishing you. It's irrelevant to the person being spanked as long as they enjoy it.

I feel like this entire forum demonstrates a chronic pessimism by rejecting the idea that a deal can be a 'win-win', that somehow both participants in the deal can benefit and the world is non-zero

Re: People see it as more acceptable to make passionate employees do extra: study

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> If someone is passionate about what they do, we see it as more legitimate to exploit them

That, to me, is a lot different than taking advantage. There are plenty of reasons you would take advantage of your job too... it’s not a negative thing, it’s making the best of it.

It’s a much better title.

Re: People see it as more acceptable to make passionate employees do extra: study

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Outside of tech, there are certainly industries that thrive on low-paid junior workers and get away with it because there are so many desperate for a "foot in the door" that they don't have to pay more e.g. entertainment, most D.C. gov jobs.

Even inside of tech, I think one can safely say that there are certain areas that do the same. Game development for instance.

In certain companies, unpaid (or poorly paid) interns are in a similar situation.

Re: People see it as more acceptable to make passionate employees do extra: study

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Well, it goes both ways. I love my job because it's not that difficult, it pays really well, and it's something I've had experience with for decades. I can get most of my work done in the span of 2 hours/day and have time left over to work on my side business. My boss is extremely happy with my work and I actually have been making more progress than most of the previous developers in my position.

Just out of curiosity, what line of work are you in? Sounds like a great set up you have there.

Re: People see it as more acceptable to make passionate employees do extra: study

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post #2

If I love my job, then I'm not being taken advantage of (from my perspective). If I'm being taken advantage of, that is a strong force to get me to hate my job. Whether or not my supervisors think they're taking advantage of me is a different matter, and one that is largely irrelevant to me.

Its like if spanking was your fetish but the person spanking you believes they are punishing you. It's irrelevant to the person being spanked as long as they enjoy it.

Hilarious, but an apt analogy. It might make more sense to say that anyone who doesn't work for themselves is being taken advantage of - that said, I prefer the simplicity of punching the clock to the scramble of running my own business, so I guess I'm a masochist too.

Re: People see it as more acceptable to make passionate employees do extra: study

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post #5

If you hate your job, someone may be taking advantage of you. If you love your job, someone may be taking advantage of you. Someone may be taking advantage of you. Or not. Who knows?

If you love your job, you could be getting paid less. Clearly you are taking advantage of your employer.

If you hate your job, clearly you've stayed because they are offering more than any place that is better and you're taking advantage of your employer.

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