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Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Post by Markoff »

qxcbr wrote: post #126
Markoff wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WhatsApp and signal work fine without GCM/FCM, dunno about other apps but WhatsApp it's international standard so you are fine you can get updates through their own app store AppGallery, but your paid apps are paid through Google, so don't expect them in order store, tying your money to Google ecosystem was bad idea in first place

>WhatsApp and signal work fine without GCM/FCM, dunno about other apps but WhatsApp it's international standard so you are fine Probably not after Android 8.

they both work fine on pie

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Post by graton »

snaky wrote: post #326
askvictor wrote: post #306

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Perhaps Huawei will assist in the development of microg ( https://microg.org/ ) - a free (as in freedom) drop-in replacement for Google Play Services.

Huawei will never do that, the very concept of free or open-source is absolutely alien to them. But they could develop some kind of their own Play Services, compatible with Google.

Huawei contributes to open source projects right now. I know they have been contributing to OpenStack for years and likely other open-source projects. https://www.stackalytics.com/?company=huawei&metric=commits&...

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Post by vxNsr »

timkly wrote: post #321

As an Australian with a Hauwei phone, the writing is on the wall for me. Google Android in no longer a universal platform and moving forward, I doubt I'll ever buy anything again Google or US related again in terms of tech. This si no longer a China vs US issue, it's the US vs the world.

That's kinda hilarious coming from an australian. a country in which some companies have said they will no longer trust their employees due to the new law enforcement bills passed.

In addition australia has the same stance as nearly every western country when it comes to Huawei, namely "only we get to spy on our people, so get out"

I'm sure that the EU/australia/the west is breathing a sigh of relief that Trump did this instead of forcing them to make up some more draconian law about foreign device mfg that would have unintended consequences.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Post by threeseed »

ulfw wrote: post #340
panabee wrote: post #269

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tesla is starting to automate car manufacturing and seems to be making progress. can you comment on the feasibility on automating smartphone manufacturing? do elements of smartphone manufacturing render automation intractable, or harder than car manufacturing?

Wow. Look at Tesla go! Why hasn't any other auto manufacturer thought of this?!

The other auto makers are too busy rolling around in their billions in profit.

Tesla doesn't have this problem you see.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Post by lone_haxx0r »

windexh8er wrote: post #295
yding wrote: post #279

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By LE capable firmware you mean that the FBI had a backdoor to eavesdrop? Wow.

Yes indeed [0]. [0] https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/10000/10008/fe...

So, the US having freedom really was just a meme after all.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Post by Tsubasachan »

ghobs91 wrote: post #240
mayama wrote: post #230

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Will Huawei still have access to TSMC, Samsung fabs etc? I think Hardware should be more of an issue for them than software. Chinese phones already use some alternative to play store iirc.

It appears they're only losing access to American hardware and software. So that would mean Android, Gorilla Glass screens, Qualcomm processors, etc.

This could actually be a boon for China. Now they have to start developing their phones completely in-house. On the longer term that could be the end for American tech.

If one thing the last 50 years has taught us is that whatever the US can do an Asian competitor can do as well.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Post by srcmap »

platform wrote: post #350
yskchu wrote: post #276

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The difference between Huawei's situation and Microsoft's situation is that Microsoft's app store is not compatible with Android or IOS (obviously, different OS) While if Huawei uses the Android open source base, the only thing they have to do is entice developers to submit another copy of their app to their store, which is a much lower barrier than the one MS faced to develop a whole new ecosystem

Well, if Huawei would say a) here is our store b) your app will be marketed to Chinese population (as long as your backend servers run on Chinese infra) then, I think they have a chance to attract app developers. Otherwise, I doubt it.

For Chinese market, Huawei don't have anything to worry about. It is likely gain more "Chinese" market share from this.

For the rest of the world, it would be completely different story. It is hard to imagine Huawei won't loss huge market share from the EU and rest of the world without Google's Play Store.

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Post by plazmatic »

lone_haxx0r wrote: post #355
windexh8er wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes indeed [0]. [0] https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/10000/10008/fe...

So, the US having freedom really was just a meme after all.

Everything is a meme to the plebs these days. Simplify everything for the small brains.

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Post by bouncycastle »

PixyMisa wrote: post #349
timkly wrote: post #321

As an Australian with a Hauwei phone, the writing is on the wall for me. Google Android in no longer a universal platform and moving forward, I doubt I'll ever buy anything again Google or US related again in terms of tech. This si no longer a China vs US issue, it's the US vs the world.

It's a China vs. the world issue. China has been spying on everyone, for years. Political, military, commercial, makes no difference.

Seems like we have forgotten all about Snowden.

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Post by lone_haxx0r »

PixyMisa wrote: post #349
timkly wrote: post #321

As an Australian with a Hauwei phone, the writing is on the wall for me. Google Android in no longer a universal platform and moving forward, I doubt I'll ever buy anything again Google or US related again in terms of tech. This si no longer a China vs US issue, it's the US vs the world.

It's a China vs. the world issue. China has been spying on everyone, for years. Political, military, commercial, makes no difference.

So has the US.
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