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Google suspends some business with Huawei

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You do know that China actively has concentration camps, right? They use data and tech they've stolen to do it. You really think that's the same as Facebook serving you ads? Give me a break.

50% of US inmates (prison slave labor participants) are African American, sounds pretty concentrated here as well.

I don't believe the whole continent of Africa has 1.5 million Africans in jail, this is a uniquely American outcome.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From comment by StudentStuff, hidden below: > SCMP is owned by Alibaba, they're far from impartial: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post .

They're the source for the Engadget article, so still a better choice in any case. The change in ownership also hasn't affected the quality of their reporting, as far as I can tell.

I was just reiterating the comment, it was hidden. Also kinda silly for you to say so definitively that being owned by what is effectively a state venture of the PRC doesn't have an effect on their reporting. I wouldn't say that about basically any news outlet, because they all at least have a headquarters somewhere.

And given the PRC's enormous, well-documented investments into perverting the truth and framing the narrative worldwide, more developed than most; even an arm's length relationship is too close for me to put that sort of trust into a a venture like this.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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I guess this is a thinly veiled attack on China, but I'm a bit confused why there's a feud between the US and China in the first place. Perhaps my ignorance is down to being British and a bit out of the loop, but could someone give a rough outline on what the underlying motives for this are?

Let me give it a shot with actual references, and years of paying attention, not whatever I heard the talking heads say last night. The US perceives the economic relationship with China to be one way. Prior to the recent trade flair ups, China was given preferential treatment, perhaps as part of a strategy to create a geopolitical ally instead of an enemy through trade. This appeared to be working for several decades…

> The US perceives the economic relationship with China to be one way.

This is ridiculous. No one thinks it is one way. The spanish sending south american gold back to spain was one way.

What is actually happening, is some people think it is unfairly biased towards China.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huawei being a Chinese company are perfectly content with spying on you without Google trying to interfere. Be prepared in a few years when certain network requests just fail, like trying to send a comment mentioning 996.icu.

Which USA and USA based companies would never do; praise God for the USA defending us all from giving our money to their industrial opponents, right?

To be fair, Apple has been fighting tooth and nail against the FBI decrypting their phones.

Huawei, ZTE and consorts are literally owned by PRC cadre and are actively involved in infrastructure to spy on and terrorize minority groups in China, as well as getting caught spying and stealing IP abroad.

I think there is no need to answer each post with Whataboutism, especially when the comparision is to tilted against Chinese companies.

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You do know that China actively has concentration camps, right? They use data and tech they've stolen to do it. You really think that's the same as Facebook serving you ads? Give me a break.

Ok, yes, that is true. But the USA commits war crimes and doesn't want to be brought before court over them. So I should stop using US goods if I gave a shit about human rights, right?

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To all those stating that Huawei should just make their own OS, it's nowhere near that simple. Forking Android is the easy part, building an app ecosystem that thousands of developers across the globe actively partake in is incredibly difficult. Microsoft couldn't even pull it off with Windows Phone. I predict their own Android fork and China-focused app store will do fine in China, but struggle big time in other mar…

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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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To all those stating that Huawei should just make their own OS, it's nowhere near that simple. Forking Android is the easy part, building an app ecosystem that thousands of developers across the globe actively partake in is incredibly difficult. Microsoft couldn't even pull it off with Windows Phone. I predict their own Android fork and China-focused app store will do fine in China, but struggle big time in other mar…

Domestically within China, Huawei and other phones already use non-google-app-stores.

https://technode.com/2018/08/13/android-china-q2-2018/

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cost is not the reason all consumer electronics are made in China. Actually, manufacturing there is now more expensive than Estern Europe. They build them there because all the supply chain is already there. In Shenzhen, the capacitors, resistors, PCBs and most chips are sourced in bulk from around the block . That's something no other country in the West or even East has and it's such a complex interconnected ecosys…

I've been watching a lot of videos on Shenzhen and it's just mental. There's basically same day delivery by bicycle or truck of anything your supply line might be running low on. It's like their transport latency is so low and reliable that they don't need as much buffering. It's amazing to see what small and large quantity production lines can look like.

> It's like their transport latency is so low

Reading this, I begin to scratch head hearing people complaining about factories being squeezed out towards boundaries of Shenzhen municipality.

I remember people thinking of that as some end of the world event.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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To all those stating that Huawei should just make their own OS, it's nowhere near that simple. Forking Android is the easy part, building an app ecosystem that thousands of developers across the globe actively partake in is incredibly difficult. Microsoft couldn't even pull it off with Windows Phone. I predict their own Android fork and China-focused app store will do fine in China, but struggle big time in other mar…

Will Huawei still have access to TSMC, Samsung fabs etc? I think Hardware should be more of an issue for them than software. Chinese phones already use some alternative to play store iirc.
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