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Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#191
I'd love to see a forensic level reverse engineering/technical audit of the Nexus 6P hardware.

In reality Chinese intelligence likely wasn't stupid enough to try anything there, but I often wonder how many eyes Google had on hardware security for that project considering it was Huawei making their flagship phone at the time.

I also wonder if there were any NSA efforts to tear the thing apart, since they are likely better qualified and have more experience in that realm.

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Xiaomi and Huawei are not the same company

Sorry - mislinked. Still wouldn't be surprised if Xiaomi get's the banhammer from the US gov't though.

Xiaomi doesn't sell networking equipment, which is why Huawei is targeted.

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>So basically a viewpoint that I tend to agree with is that this is all about resetting the trade relationship to a normal one between peers. Fairly sure you're wrong on this, the US now wants an advantageous relationship. Not an even score. Just returning to even ground would let China keep the advantages it has reaped.

That would be reasonable, but China has had such an advantage for so long that just getting them to a level playing field will appear to be a devastating loss. This has been furthered by how the situation has been portrayed in the media in both China and the US and around the world, with the US as the aggressor. I believe this has caused the Chinese government to miscalculate, thinking the US will lose support and ba…

> The thing that really annoys me about this is that if China would just be patient and play by the rules, be genuinely friendly to its neighbors, it would take them like 20 or 30 years longer but then the whole world would just place the crown on their head and they would peacefully become the world's only superpower. Naturally, maybe even justly. Now we all get misery because of impatience.

just playing the devils advocate but, couldn’t the same have be said about the us (e.g imf, world bank, regime change wars etc)?

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I'm not sure why this is being voted down. I'll take a well-known Hong Kong newspaper (in this case the South China Morning Post ) over a tech blog re-writing other people's journalism any day.

SCMP is owned by Alibaba, they're far from impartial: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post

Engadget is owned by Verizon, they're far from impartial: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engadget

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I may have missed this, but have there been any specific accusations against Huawei? It is clear Chinese actors hack and steal IP, but have those been connected to Huawei, or are they just the easiest victim for the US to retaliate against?

There were reports out of the UK about bad software hygiene, with some implications of bug-doors.

We are talking about Huawei and not Cisco right? They seem to have a constant stream of the problems and nobody seems to give a shit.

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#196

I can't see any Chinese phone company feeling comfortable with this move. If someone sets up a viable non-US alternative to Android and the Play Store, they could jump ship en masse.

Lineage OS

Huawei and Honor stopped providing bootloader unlock codes last year [1]. Wouldn't this make it impossible to install Lineage OS or another AOSP-based custom ROM?

[1] https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloa...

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How much more expensive would an iPhone be that’s assembled in the US?

Cost is not the reason all consumer electronics are made in China. Actually, manufacturing there is now more expensive than Estern Europe. They build them there because all the supply chain is already there. In Shenzhen, the capacitors, resistors, PCBs and most chips are sourced in bulk from around the block . That's something no other country in the West or even East has and it's such a complex interconnected ecosys…

I've been watching a lot of videos on Shenzhen and it's just mental. There's basically same day delivery by bicycle or truck of anything your supply line might be running low on.

It's like their transport latency is so low and reliable that they don't need as much buffering. It's amazing to see what small and large quantity production lines can look like.

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#198

In a way, this helps Apple (and other Android vendors) and in a way, it hurts it. Huawei phones recently have shipped market leading cameras that blow pretty much all other Android and iPhone cameras out of the water. They took a commanding lead as a premium device manufacturer. Hurting their non-China markets gives breathing space to others. However, if I were Apple, I'd be really worried about retaliation. Apple is…

The last thing China wants during a trade war is to have the 3 million people in Apple's supply chain unemployed and angry. This particular leverage is also why iMessage isn't blocked in China.

More likely because Apple gave China the master encryption keys: https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/25/apple-moves-icloud-encrypt...

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The last thing China wants during a trade war is to have the 3 million people in Apple's supply chain unemployed and angry. This particular leverage is also why iMessage isn't blocked in China.

More likely because Apple gave China the master encryption keys: https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/25/apple-moves-icloud-encrypt...

iMessage is end-to-end encrypted.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#200

No more updates for my Huawei phone then presumably. Really feeling more secure now!

Well, OS updates weren't going through the play store anyway, no? And it appears you'll continue to be able to download app updates via the play store "But users of existing Huawei devices who have access to the Google Play Store will still be able to download app updates provided by Google.".

Some security updates will be installed via the Play Store starting from Android Q.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/18531350/google-android-q-...

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