The US doing some market manipulation again; good thing they want to stop companies and countries from spying on people. /s https://www.wikiwand.com/en/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
Are you against warrants?
Google suspends some business with Huawei
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#182In a way, this helps Apple (and other Android vendors) and in a way, it hurts it. Huawei phones recently have shipped market leading cameras that blow pretty much all other Android and iPhone cameras out of the water. They took a commanding lead as a premium device manufacturer. Hurting their non-China markets gives breathing space to others. However, if I were Apple, I'd be really worried about retaliation. Apple is…
How much more expensive would an iPhone be that’s assembled in the US?
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-an...
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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei
#183If true, this is certainly a nuclear move. There's a variety of first party app stores in China, though I doubt they'll see much success convincing Western users to switch. Curious if there's going to be antitrust fallout from markets outside the US for unilaterally crippling vendors at behest of US foreign policy. Is Microsoft or Apple going to pull their app stores as well? What happened to project Dragon Fly? On t…
Are any of these stores near the quality levels that Western audiences expect? My experience with software from China was consistently bad. Even the AliExpress web site looks like a cobbled together, barely working mess that people only put up with because of the low prices of the goods you can buy there, which won't work for app stores.
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#184This was expected. Huawei now presents a serious competition to the likes of Apple, so the 'free market' in the U.S. responds by...shutting down the competition. Now I know the counterargument is about Chinese protectionism, but it is the U.S. who has always championed free market capitalism and led interventions in order to forcibly open other markets to its exports. As this shows however, this belief in the free ma…
It seems like the exact opposite is true. China in some sense doesn't abide by free market or free trade principles, and this can be seen as a principled stand against that.
Also, China does not necessarily claim to be as free-market as the U.S. does and as far as I am aware, has not let interventionist wars in order to open up a foreign market to its companies.
What I am talking here is principle. The U.S. claims to have free speech for example, China does not. But in that instance the U.S. sticks by its principles and maintains its free speech protections, despite China not having them.
Why is this different when it comes to the free market? A concept the U.S. has in recent history definitely fought harder worldwide than the pursuit of free speech.
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#185I always wondered what would it take for a company to develop an alternative mobile operating system? To me the combination of Android and iOS always was the perfect mold around the business of high-end mobile phones. Android is given away for free; but to make a truly great end user experience hardware and software needs to be integrated. Like it is for iOS. But that requires an enourmous investment; and there is no…
Creating an app ecosystem out of nowhere. This was the same thing that killed all competitors to Apple and Android.
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#186I assume Cadence, Synopsys, Mentor Graphics, Xilinx, Intel PSG, Microsemi, Lattice, and Qualcomm are also affected by the Huawei blacklist. Can Huawei survive without these critical components and EDA tools? If Huawei ignores the loss of licenses and uses existing software and libraries to develop future products, will those be banned from US and EU markets?
Do they even respect licenses to being with?
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
why would carriers care about bootloader unlocks? it's different from a carrier lock , which prevents a phone from being used on another carrier.
Doesn't an unlocked bootloader almost automatically allow bypassing of the carrier lock?
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#189How does this affect Huawei's base station business? They are massive in Europe.
Huawei is also the vast majority of cabinets for VDSL in the UK (the ECI alternative which was deployed has been pulled as was really low quality compared to the Huawei kit). My rough guess there is at least 20,000 DSLAMs on nearly every streeet corner that are built by Huawei.
At least in the UK it is hard to see how the country can run without this kit, and it would be an enormous undertaking to pull it out. I'm sure many other European countries are the same as Huawei's kit is definitely technically the best for this kind of stuff as far as my knowledge goes.
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#190A version of Android/replacement to Android that is used by most Chinese phones but not in the hands of Google seems like the inevitable outcome.
We already know China can produce world class hardware - I wonder how they will fare at operating systems.
It's not an easy task.