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Post by gatherhunterer »

gotland_ wrote: post #76

This really sucks. But just because he has gotten a "license" from a musician friend does not mean that they can use/copy any sounds or melodies, and the company attacking him might have some kind of valid claim. Just a quick check of the first video I found from him had an intro which could be argued to be similar to George Harrison, Got My Mind Set On You for example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2IVj4K2hLE htt…

He has now tweeted an update acknowledging that the artist from whom he licensed the music may not have had the right to claim sampled music as their own. Another update urges others to ensure that licensees actually have the right to license the work that they claim as original. This is the only top-level comment that offers actual information on why this may have happened and it was downvoted for a difference of perspective informed by that information.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by troyastorino »

northwest65 wrote: post #219

I do wonder if Youtube employees ever ponder when the day will come that a slighted, desperate content creator is going to visit their offices with an AR-15 and let their anger truly be known.

In case you didn't know, something very close to what you're describing happened, and makes your comment seem extremely insensitive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_headquarters_shooting

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by nixgeek »

northwest65 wrote: post #219

I do wonder if Youtube employees ever ponder when the day will come that a slighted, desperate content creator is going to visit their offices with an AR-15 and let their anger truly be known.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_headquarters_shooting

Many of the downvotes may be because this comment feels like incredibly poor taste, given there was already a shooting incident at YouTube where people (in that case, the shooter) lost their lives.

You may not have been aware of that.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by northwest65 »

nixgeek wrote: post #223
northwest65 wrote: post #219

I do wonder if Youtube employees ever ponder when the day will come that a slighted, desperate content creator is going to visit their offices with an AR-15 and let their anger truly be known.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_headquarters_shooting Many of the downvotes may be because this comment feels like incredibly poor taste, given there was already a shooting incident at YouTube where people (in that case, the shooter) lost their lives. You may not have been aware of that.

I was aware of the incident, but I thought it was related to a jilted lover.

It'll happen again.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by inetknght »

guntars wrote: post #93
ratsmack wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bringing a lawsuit is not an option for the vast majority of people, but it seems this is the first option many people suggest. Situations like this are more of a problem with our laws that largely protect the interests of large corporations over individuals and really need to be changed.

Then maybe someone needs to sell DMCA insurance to small creators that could never afford to retain a lawyer individually. The majority of the invalid claims would get reversed the second a suit is filed and they wouldn’t go further than that.

That's a step in the wrong direction: preventing abuse will always be better than legitimizing it.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by pas »

ratsmack wrote: post #53
panpanna wrote: post #3

The only way to fix this is to let you sue for damages + lawyer fees. As it is right now, you can earn lots of money by DMCA:ing popular creators, monetize on their content for a while (or a long time if they don't have a friend at Google who can escalate the issue).

Bringing a lawsuit is not an option for the vast majority of people, but it seems this is the first option many people suggest. Situations like this are more of a problem with our laws that largely protect the interests of large corporations over individuals and really need to be changed.

Class action? There are (tens/hundreds of?) thousands of creators affected.

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Post by michaelmrose »

DougN7 wrote: post #211
GordonS wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similar story with Adwords - if you want support with that, you ain't gonna get it. It's a maze of FAQs and automated email responses with useless information. If you manage to figure out the incantation to email an actual person, they're some kind of 1st-level support whose purpose in life is to piss you off so much with useless pre-canned responses that you finally give up. Truely, incredible that they get away wit…

Google is OK with it because they do it to small spenders. They have human account managers and a very visible phone number if you spend enough. Not saying I agree with it, but it makes sense.

Someone literally stealing from creators needs to start generating expensive lawsuits for some percentage of cases not managed appropriately.

This will inspire more concern on their part.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by pas »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #90
ratsmack wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bringing a lawsuit is not an option for the vast majority of people, but it seems this is the first option many people suggest. Situations like this are more of a problem with our laws that largely protect the interests of large corporations over individuals and really need to be changed.

How would you change the laws to protect people like OP?

Large companies should be required to have a full-time consumer advocate (paid by the company, but selected by users) who can effectively have a say in matters.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by michaelmrose »

0xADEADBEE wrote: post #218
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YT is running the risk of its content creators organising themselves into an industry association with legal and financial teeth, and suing its profits into oblivion.

It was my understanding that YouTube isn't profitable; has there been any new data on this that I've missed? Lack of similar-sized competitors in the space would certainly indicate that the margins don't really stack up and you could make an argument that the aggressive foisting of their premium offering underscores that notion, but I don't know for sure. It'd be interesting to know more about operating a site of tha…

If they aren't profitable now they can always become an increasingly large money sink.
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