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Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by bo1024 »

Animats wrote: post #145

False claim of copyright is a criminal offense in the US. While prosecutions are extremely rare, they have happened. It is worth getting a lawyer to help you file a formal complaint with the US Department of Justice. While the odds of criminal prosecution are low, there's a good chance paperwork from a US Attorney's office asking some questions will be sent to the offender. That will reach their legal people, and som…

By my understanding, you are mistaken or out of date. What you wrote is true for takedown notices issued under the DMCA, but YouTube is allowing companies to order takedowns or monetize other's videos without going through the legal DMCA process. That's what ContentID is about.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

stordoff wrote: post #105
nate_meurer wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happened to Stella Liebeck was terrible, but it was no one's fault more than her own. Stella's coffee was served within the temperature range that was, and still is, recommended by professional coffee associations like SCAA and NCA [1]. As of 2019, the NCA recommends that coffee be held and served at around 180-185 deg F (~80-85 deg C), which is likely near the temperature at which Stella was burned. This is a p…

> Tea is generally even hotter. Any good tea shop will serve a pot of freshly boiled water, at least twenty degrees hotter than hot coffee. Depends on the tea. Most of the recommendations I see are below boiling: > white and green teas are best at 70°c. For black and oolong teas use water around 85°c. For herbal infusions use 100°c water, and 90°c for Chamomile. https://www.rareteacompany.com/perfect-cup/how-to-make-…

That's a really odd quote from Twinings - who should know better. So I had to go and look - silly me.

They contradict themselves multiple times within the page. For your quote, they may have meant to add for green teas - which definitely does prefer water off the boil. If you scroll down the very same page, they say:

"...a black tea is fully oxidized which means that it prefers boiling water and a longer brewing time. The same goes for processed teas such as Oolong. So pour on your freshly boiled water at 100 degrees", complete with graphic confirming this. I'd agree - only for black tea. But again they contradict themselves on Oolong - which should be just off the boil - and as confirmed in their graphic. There are others, like not recommending "one for the pot" - especially as Twinings tea bags contain less tea than most.

Ugh. I'm just going to assume a non tea drinking junior wrote that page. :)

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by mamon »

ratsmack wrote: post #53
panpanna wrote: post #3

The only way to fix this is to let you sue for damages + lawyer fees. As it is right now, you can earn lots of money by DMCA:ing popular creators, monetize on their content for a while (or a long time if they don't have a friend at Google who can escalate the issue).

Bringing a lawsuit is not an option for the vast majority of people, but it seems this is the first option many people suggest. Situations like this are more of a problem with our laws that largely protect the interests of large corporations over individuals and really need to be changed.

>> Bringing a lawsuit is not an option for the vast majority of people.

Doesn't that mean that the whole justice system in US is broken? Courts of law exist for this very purpose, so that every citizen can fight for their rights, including defending themselves against this type of extortion. If the cost of lawsuit is prohibitive then you might as well live in some third world dictatorship, with no justice system at all.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by Animats »

bo1024 wrote: post #191
Animats wrote: post #145

False claim of copyright is a criminal offense in the US. While prosecutions are extremely rare, they have happened. It is worth getting a lawyer to help you file a formal complaint with the US Department of Justice. While the odds of criminal prosecution are low, there's a good chance paperwork from a US Attorney's office asking some questions will be sent to the offender. That will reach their legal people, and som…

By my understanding, you are mistaken or out of date. What you wrote is true for takedown notices issued under the DMCA, but YouTube is allowing companies to order takedowns or monetize other's videos without going through the legal DMCA process. That's what ContentID is about.

YouTube seems to claim that the DMCA counter-notice procedure applies.[1]

[1] https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2807684

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by nate_meurer »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #189
nate_meurer wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it's kind of hit or miss at restaurants. The Chart House that I frequent is good at bringing boiling hot water, but they have only one tea-drinking waitress who always makes sure the cups she brings out are hot. The little tea shop near my house always brings everything hot, of course. How do you feel about steeping times? There are some green teas that get nasty if I steep too long, but otherwise, for me, stro…

No, I don't time it - and I also prefer it good and strong. I suppose it roughly works out at 5 mins in a pot with loose leaf, and I'd guess around 3 mins with a teabag. Shorter as tea bag tea is so much nearer dust. Just not so long as to let it get stewed. Green tea and some of the lighter black teas - like Darjeeling - definitely prefer a bit less time. Lapsang souchong seems to magically avoid stewing no matter h…

Good to know. "Stewing" does sort of describe the way I make tea sometimes.

Where do you like to buy? I used to get great stuff like single-estate Darjeelings and Assams from a mail-order company that was later sold to (and destroyed by) Teavana. I mostly use Davidson's Organics now, but the selection is smaller.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by gdy »

marcinzm wrote: post #72
OrgNet wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copyright is not fine... it lasts way too long.

Which has nothing to do with copyright the concept but our particular current implementation of it.

Also communism is fine, a few failed implementations don't prove the opposite.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by nwallin »

sam0x17 wrote: post #129

I really don't understand why the process has been designed to assume the copyright claimant is in the right from the get-go when it's the claimants that abuse the system. If I was Google I'd have my lawyers aggressively pursue the legal feasibility of banning companies from submitting complaints if they abuse the complaint system (if not then ban the channels of companies who have their lawyers abuse the system) and…

> I really don't understand why the process has been designed to assume the copyright claimant is in the right from the get-go when it's the claimants that abuse the system.

Money.

If YT's system wasn't designed this way, claimants would file DMCA claims instead. This imposes a significant legal burden on YT; they would need actual lawyers with actual law degrees who've passed the bar to review each contested copyright claim.

The DMCA isn't designed in a way to make an easy path forward for a service like Youtube to operate fairly in a profitable manner. Article 13 prohibits it by law.

Copyright law reminds me of going to my parent's house and being asked to fix something on their computer. It's not this one thing that's broken, it's everything that's broken. I could fix all the little individual things, but it would be a lot easier to wipe it clean and start from scratch.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by ErikAugust »

makecheck wrote: post #186

Why do we have push-button screw-people-over systems at all? If the problem is that there are “too many” things for companies to review manually, too bad! If a company is perfectly fine raking in money from massive sales at a global scale, they should be willing to spend a proportional amount of money to do business at that scale. Let them hire their own people to review content in depth. Let them hire their own goon…

Google borders on insane with lacking any sort of manual support.

For example, when you are a paid G Suite customer - you'll need to dig hard to find their support number. Then you'll need to click several buttons making it clear you still need support. You also need to then generate a PIN used to access the phone support.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

dredmorbius wrote: post #106
inlined wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MatPat of Game Theory & Film Theory says that his YouTube rep explained the company has a categorization internally for video game accounts, which means they can never be part of the VIP category.

In English, please?

A person who uses YouTube heavily, who's content many people here will recognise, has a contact inside Google. This Google representative has reportedly said that the group who are recognised as "VIPs" (Very Important Person) by the company specifically excludes people working in a particular field of content production, namely gaming.
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