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Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by sam0x17 »

jasonlotito wrote: post #165
sam0x17 wrote: post #136

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And every second they think that way brings them a step closer to being replaced. Literally the only thing youtube has value-wise is its audience. Nothing they do can't be done with existing cloud networks and off-the-shelf open source software, or a bit of clever coding. Furthermore by catering to advertisers wholesale, they are alienating their primary users and pissing everyone off. Eventually people will get sick…

> Nothing they do can't be done with existing cloud networks and off-the-shelf open source software Please, link to this off-the-shelf open source software that can be used to replicate the YouTube experience, both in terms of hosting and playing videos as well as distribution on various platforms. I'll settle for Android and iOS.

ffmpeg, s3 (or google cloud storage or if you want affordable then wasabi), and HTML 5 video tags basically get you there -- search you can just use off-the-shelf elastic search stuff. It's not like it was in 2005 where you had to invent the wheel.

Then you just set your subscription fee to match your average cost per user, add 50% to that, round up to the nearest dollar, and you're good.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by ddingus »

gotland_ wrote: post #76

This really sucks. But just because he has gotten a "license" from a musician friend does not mean that they can use/copy any sounds or melodies, and the company attacking him might have some kind of valid claim. Just a quick check of the first video I found from him had an intro which could be argued to be similar to George Harrison, Got My Mind Set On You for example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2IVj4K2hLE htt…

The timing of the few prominent notes in that intro are similar to the George Harrison tune, but the notes themselves as well as supporting elements are different, as is the overall percussion.

Unfortunately, while I feel it's not infringing, it is debatable enough to be a problem. "few note" cases like this tend to be painful and should be avoided. I would put that right on his musician friend.

Since the bell appears to be ringing at the school of hard knocks...

Given how YT works at present, this guy should immediately produce his music elements himself, as an original work, in tandem with a musician.

Validate that shit, and then move to using that imaging from here on out.

While that is in progress, definitely counter claim every single one. Gotta be someone in the family, or a friend, able to help. Just knock them out.

Make lots of noise about the whole mess too, including the production of original music, complete with behind the scenes videos that substantiate the originality, as well as inform and transition people to the new branding.

It's possible to move past this, and the creator absolutely should.

It's also reasonable to expect better.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by sam0x17 »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #154
sam0x17 wrote: post #133

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Heck, I'd even have my developers write an AI that automatically extracts fair-use-length clips from videos and songs belonging to some of the biggest complainers, and uploads them as "honeypot" videos. If they complain about one of those, ban 'em from complaining again. They don't understand copyright law.

A 10 second clip of a movie isn’t necessarily fair use; It’s decided on a case by case basis. You can use as much as you need to get your point across; No more. If that’s 10 seconds, you can use 10 seconds. If that’s a minute, you can use a minute.

But if Google's lawyers took a stance on this, they could use precedent to set defined rules for what actually counts as fair use and all these claimants would be fucked.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by eropple »

sam0x17 wrote: post #169
eropple wrote: post #163

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I'm aware of S3's capabilities. That's why I included the "a lot of money" caveat. The barrier to entry is enormous . I run a podcast platform; I can't even host that on S3 without going to the poor house.

Yeah this is why I think without massive investment it would have to be a subscription only service.

Sure - and the Internet's userbase has decided that, for the most part, they don't want that.

Maybe somebody with a really rocking Patreon could go use Wistia or something - but how do they maintain their fanbase and grow it?

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by cameronbrown »

inlined wrote: post #31
sirn wrote: post #4

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FWIW, the author of the tweet, Mumbo Jumbo is a high-profile Minecraft videos content creator on YouTube (3M subscribers) and he's doing this as his full-time job. By your description, I would say he's in the top personalities group. What's happening here is basically Warner Chappell is claiming a revenue sharing of his video with no recourse. Edit: he posted a new video elaborating more about this issue.[1] [1]: htt…

MatPat of Game Theory & Film Theory says that his YouTube rep explained the company has a categorization internally for video game accounts, which means they can never be part of the VIP category.

I don't understand why popularity, not the type of content, isn't what makes you VIP?

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by cameronbrown »

zaroth wrote: post #37
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #29

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There's no technical reason someone couldn't put together a WordPress-for-Video system - or even add video to Wordpress. (Although that would almost certainly suck for performance reasons.) The big problem is discovery. A lot of people are wondering about decentralised server networks with an open discovery/search system built on top. That's a horrendously hard project for social as well as technical reasons. But it'…

I’d say the problem is less discovery as it is monetization. The total bandwidth for one of these creators’ videos is not itself all that massive. Particularly if you are not live streaming, a few thousand dollars in hosting costs a year to get 100TB/mo dedicated servers in a couple datacenters. But once you have the servers humming and serving a few million views a month, whose ads are you running alongside your con…

Patreon has proved people are willing to pay for content. We just need an easier way to do it.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by VonGallifrey »

dymk wrote: post #24
RubberbandSoul wrote: post #18

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BitChute?

Do you think that self hosting a video streaming server is going to be attainable for content creators? Simply setting up DNs is hard for the layman.

I have worked on a video streaming service[1] and I also worked for a company that did sell ad space on their own and with this background I can tell you that I do believe that it should be possible for him to set up his own video distribution site. You are right that he probably does not have the technical expertise to build it himself, but he makes about 1 Million Euro a Year. He probably has enough cash on hand to hire a team that can.

[1] Although a kind of specialized one with a lot simpler scaling characteristics compared to a YouTube replacement.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by sam0x17 »

gipp wrote: post #153
sam0x17 wrote: post #141

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I completely agree with this. There should be enormous consequences for false reports, and there should be an AI that is designed to understand fair use (It's not fucking impossible).

Sure, but YouTube doesn't have that option . Any of the suggestions given here would almost certainly lose YT their safe harbor status. YouTube's policies are as Draconian as they are because that's literally the only way to comply with the law . I can't for the life of me figure out why YT doesn't have some kind of messaging strategy around that.

The point is though, they aren't fighting it at all. There are all kinds of ways they could penalize copyright claimants that wouldn't affect safe-harbor status, but they aren't doing it. They are in bed with the movie and music studios.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by FreeFull »

Animats wrote: post #145

False claim of copyright is a criminal offense in the US. While prosecutions are extremely rare, they have happened. It is worth getting a lawyer to help you file a formal complaint with the US Department of Justice. While the odds of criminal prosecution are low, there's a good chance paperwork from a US Attorney's office asking some questions will be sent to the offender. That will reach their legal people, and som…

Part of the problem here would be that none of the claims sent to MumboJumbo have been through the DMCA. They all use Youtube's internal system instead, which was built to appease the big music publishers.
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