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With 2 kids and a partner diagnosed as being autistic, it's a massive trigger for me. Seen so many health professionals because of my family, not one has ever referred to it as a disease. Just to elaborate further. Child 1 - ASD/ADHD Child 2 - ASD/SPD possibly PDA Partner - ASD/SPD They're all different and display different characteristics,have differing needs and have different mental health issues. Child 1 is abou…
The fact that it's a massive trigger for someone doesn't mean it's less of a disease. Maybe the problem is the negativity the word "disease" brings, but someone who suffers autism is a diseased person.
Autism research on single neurons suggests signaling problems in brain circuits
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Finding an indicative difference in a tiny, yet random sample appears to have accomplished more than the guy yelling "small sample size" - and, which I find ironic - "waste!" here. They managed to add a tiny bit of contrast to a picture that's totally blank, and provide 15 pixels of data, please explain how that's supposed to be worthless? By the same logic, if I manage to cure an extremely rare type of cancer under…
Because you can easily find "a tiny bit of contrast" by comparing any two things; there will always be differences. this doesn't demonstrate that it isn't just noise and this difference is biologically and clinically meaningful. Also, "the yelling" is called peer review. It's the entire basis of science.
I'd imagine "peer review" would be along the lines of taking another set of samples and comparing results, but maybe that's just me.
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So I'd consider myself one of these people. And I think it's really important that people like myself are grouped with those with more severe forms of autism. Bascially because I'm pretty sure the root cause is the same, I react to all the same triggers as classically autistic people, I'm just better able to control my reaction. It's difderent to the ADHD "epidemic", because it generally doesn't involve medication. R…
>I agree that those with more debilitating forms might want treatment. Those are the majority. >So I'd consider myself one of these people. I got myself positively diagnosed also, not autistic in any way, the behaviour therapists that can diagnose anyone in the UK should be thrown out, any diagnosis especially in adulthood that does not involve multiple doctors including neurologists and psychiatrists is not somethin…
> I got myself positively diagnosed also, not autistic in any way
I'm the opposite, I have never gotten myself diagnosed. As you say, there doesn't seem to be much point to this.
> Why? there is no clinical significance to this.
I'm not really looking at this from a clinical perspective, but from a research perspective. From the perspective of finding out more about why this condition exists and what causes it, I think it is pretty significant there are large number of people who seem to be affected in similar ways, but for whom the condition is not so problematic.
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The issue is that it's really both. It's kind of pointless to debate the effects of autism when one side is thinking "Light Aspergers" and the other "Adults in diapers".
Unlikely, at least not in a clinically useful manner. A disease is a disease, one of the strongest arguments against the "high functioning" part of the autism spectrum these days is that these people don't seem to exhibit much if any of the comorbidity syndromes prevalent to autism especially the physiological one. The lower you go on the spectrum the higher the chances for comorbidity for a lot of other conditions,…
Unless evidence becomes available to make such distinctions becomes available it is confusing and misleading to define autism differently than the standard way.
It is really dangerous to claim that autism can't be a serious condition unless it is alongside low IQ or physiological symptoms. It is also entirely unnecessary to stigmatise autism by calling it a disease, when it is so often inextricably linked to a persons personality.
Those with autism absolutely can be high functioning in the sense that they don't have the kind of co-occurring conditions that you describe. This does not always mean they do not need what most would see as drastic interventions and care.
People with autism often have a high ability to function on some social axis but are dangerously unaware of social conventions in others. Those with autism that lack the proper support can hurt themselves, they can hurt others, they can cause massive social disruption and they can end up with serious mental health problems. A diagnosis of autism can help society to provide much needed support.
We owe it to everyone in society to think about how we can help people without considering their states of existence defective.
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Because you can easily find "a tiny bit of contrast" by comparing any two things; there will always be differences. this doesn't demonstrate that it isn't just noise and this difference is biologically and clinically meaningful. Also, "the yelling" is called peer review. It's the entire basis of science.
I'd imagine "peer review" would be along the lines of taking another set of samples and comparing results, but maybe that's just me.
Peer review does not involve trying to replicated the results as far as I'm aware... it's just commentary, hopefully by qualified people, on the perceived standard of the work at hand.
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It's a review of this paper [1]. Why do you consider it pseudoscience? [1] "Assessment of Hair Aluminum, Lead, and Mercury in a Sample of Autistic Egyptian Children: Environmental Risk Factors of Heavy Metals in Autism" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4609793/
As is stated on their homepage[1], vaccinepapers.org takes the position that no currently marketed vaccine is acceptably safe for use because of long-debunked concerns over aluminum adjuvants causing autism. [1] http://vaccinepapers.org/about/
Re: Autism research on single neurons suggests signaling problems in brain circuits
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#79Since when was autism classified as a disease?
When it affects quality of life.