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Autism research on single neurons suggests signaling problems in brain circuits

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Re: Autism research on single neurons suggests signaling problems in brain circuits

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Since always? It’s a developmental disorder, and a disease is “a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury.” Pretty much every medical body would list it under its classification of illnesses. e.g. NHS: https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/brain-n…

Perhaps the GP was referring to the role that social norms play regarding whether some abnormality is considered a disease or not, and the ensuing debates about whether or not is should be.

Any abnormality that adversely affects the form or function of the human body that does not stem form physical injury is a disease.

The problem here is that most people think that those who suffer from autism are the quirky guy at work who’s good at math while in reality most of them would be in diapers trough adulthood.

In reality it is a terrible debilitating disease that enacts a huge toll on both those who suffer from it and their families. I really hope no one would have to live through the fear that they can’t die because no one would be there to provide the life long support their child might need, not to mention having to live with that responsibility for the rest of their natural life.

Re: Autism research on single neurons suggests signaling problems in brain circuits

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Since when was autism classified as a disease?

The DSM-III, published in 1980, established autism as its own separate diagnosis and described it as a “pervasive developmental disorder” distinct from schizophrenia.

Re: Autism research on single neurons suggests signaling problems in brain circuits

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Since always. What is it otherwise?

There was an HN thread the other day about how some (many?) autistic people don't think there is anything wrong with them and that they wouldn't "cure" themselves even if there were a "cure" because from their point of view there is nothing to cure and they are happy the way they are.

I'm really happy for them, but they are among the lucky ones. The less lucky can't say what they think.

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Since always. What is it otherwise?

There was an HN thread the other day about how some (many?) autistic people don't think there is anything wrong with them and that they wouldn't "cure" themselves even if there were a "cure" because from their point of view there is nothing to cure and they are happy the way they are.

That's always puzzled me. It's certainly an individual's right to decline treatment for any medical condition, and to some extent I can understand why someone with autism might choose to do so, but that doesn't make it any less of a medical condition.

Re: Autism research on single neurons suggests signaling problems in brain circuits

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Perhaps the GP was referring to the role that social norms play regarding whether some abnormality is considered a disease or not, and the ensuing debates about whether or not is should be.

Any abnormality that adversely affects the form or function of the human body that does not stem form physical injury is a disease. The problem here is that most people think that those who suffer from autism are the quirky guy at work who’s good at math while in reality most of them would be in diapers trough adulthood. In reality it is a terrible debilitating disease that enacts a huge toll on both those who suffer…

The issue is that it's really both. It's kind of pointless to debate the effects of autism when one side is thinking "Light Aspergers" and the other "Adults in diapers".

Re: Autism research on single neurons suggests signaling problems in brain circuits

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was an HN thread the other day about how some (many?) autistic people don't think there is anything wrong with them and that they wouldn't "cure" themselves even if there were a "cure" because from their point of view there is nothing to cure and they are happy the way they are.

That's always puzzled me. It's certainly an individual's right to decline treatment for any medical condition, and to some extent I can understand why someone with autism might choose to do so, but that doesn't make it any less of a medical condition.

I think it's different because, at least in some forms, it comes with advantages as well as disadvantages.

For some people it's debilitating, but for others it's not.

Re: Autism research on single neurons suggests signaling problems in brain circuits

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Perhaps the GP was referring to the role that social norms play regarding whether some abnormality is considered a disease or not, and the ensuing debates about whether or not is should be.

Any abnormality that adversely affects the form or function of the human body that does not stem form physical injury is a disease. The problem here is that most people think that those who suffer from autism are the quirky guy at work who’s good at math while in reality most of them would be in diapers trough adulthood. In reality it is a terrible debilitating disease that enacts a huge toll on both those who suffer…

The problem is how diverse people with Autism are. So in reality autism is the quirky guy with social problems, those who need life long support, and everything in between.
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