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Ask HN: How do you cope with loneliness?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you cope with loneliness?

#41

You're a programmer right? You build web apps and stuff? When you build one and launch it out into the world, do you expect everyone to drop everything and flock to your website? I hope not. You need to reach out, as uncomfortable as it might be, and engage people. It's hard work. Now let's take your personal life. When you're at your computer most of the day, do you expect people to magically gravitate to you and be…

"People want to meet you, but you have to meet them halfway."

Exactly. Reach out to people. Put yourself out there. I'm discovering that the people that are worth getting to know take some effort. I've had lots of "friends" who in hindsight, where just chatty assholes.

Re: Ask HN: How do you cope with loneliness?

#42
Join a volunteer group, or perhaps a church (that actually does something useful). Mix with non computer people, and contribute to your community. You will feel better about yourself, and help others. Appreciate what others do for school or a living, and they will appreciate what you do, rather than try to run a rivalry.

Re: Ask HN: How do you cope with loneliness?

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I got out of my self-induced mode of minimal outside contact by regularly (3x times a week) going to the climbing gym. You go regularly, you meet a bunch of people who regularly go, and there is no pressure to do anything but chat about your common interest, rock climbing. It's fun to hang out in a casual way with people when there is a focus...Some people like to casually hang out at parties and don't need an activity, but that isn't me.

With an example like the rock gym, you can take it as far as you want. You can just be friendly and another regular at the gym, or you can slowly work your way into climbing trips with other regulars, etc. Not to mention, you get in great shape.

BTW, you can replace rock gym with ____ readily (above comments mention dancing), the key is to have a common activity that is fun and lends itself to interaction, learning how to break the ice, etc etc.

Re: Ask HN: How do you cope with loneliness?

#45
in my experience it has been moments these that have forced me to grow, forced my out of my comfort zone. more often then not resulting in new friends.

its a lot like traveling alone verses traveling with friends. if you have friends around you are less likely to talk to those around you.. conversely when you alone.. the only way to meet others is to talk to them.

over time i became better at it, and now i almost prefer to start out someplace alone, slowly building new relationships.

Re: Ask HN: How do you cope with loneliness?

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“If you’re lonely when you’re alone, you’re in bad company.” - Satre

I don't know how this should help. There's a difference between social isolation and not being able to be alone from time to time.

It helped me. I think it depends on someone's outlook on being alone is. I am an introverted guy so I enjoy being alone more than being with other people (small company is fine occasionally). Some of the bad feelings some people have towards being alone comes from the social pressure of "if you are alone something is wrong with you".

If you can get over the feeling that there is nothing wrong with being alone, you might actually enjoy being alone.

But of course everyone is different. This might not work for everyone.

Re: Ask HN: How do you cope with loneliness?

#47
I will also echo the advice to start dancing. It will teach you much more about male and female interactions (particularly intimate ones) then just "going to parties"; the only other subject matter I know of that would do it faster is Pick Up. You also make a lot of really great friends who love to have fun. There's nothing like going to the Salsa club on a Thursday and Friday night with your "Salsa group" and dancing away the night till 3AM - sure beats being lonely to me.

I really like what DeusExMachina had to say about using your loneliness as an advantage. You are free to move about and if you learn how to be secure in that as well as socially capable "on-the-fly" you will be able to go anywhere and do anything without fear of people and without fear of no-people. You are in a much better place than just "loneliness" and all it takes is a shift in your attitude towards it (IMHO) for something to blossom from it.

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Here's a bit of my own story, maybe it will help give you some perspective:

I'm naturally a loner, I prefer to be self-sufficient but love very much having fun with people that know me; I believe in personal autonomy and freedom from the need for peer-based validation that many of us are raised to seek. I believe friendships are healthier when they are "I want" rather than "I need".

I wasn't always so calm and confident about my social presence though. Five years ago, a new city, and loner behavior had me yearning for a social outlet - I had just moved to Vegas, which is (in addition to my social short-comings) notorious for its cold social climate and hidden, niche social groups.

After deciding that I was definitely depressed I made my mind up to remedy the silly situation. I remember coming across a website called meetup.com and quickly started searching for one of my favorite activities [hiking] on their website. A year later, I was happier, had many more casual friends and was going on three to four weekly hikes all around Las Vegas (Vegas is awesome for outdoors because it is so close to many great locations). I was also being constantly invited out to singles parties, volleyball games, bbqs, and 2AM treks by moonlight to the Goldstrike hotsprings on the Colorado river. I'm also an avid snowboarder and had a number of great bonding experiences with some of my regular hiking buddies doing that.

All of this though and my interaction with the opposite sex was still lacking and uneventful - I was wanting more fulfillment there.

Then, one day, a hiking acquaintance emailed me and said I should try out Salsa dancing; interested, I showed up for a Tuesday night class, fumbled like an idiot (we all do for the first three weeks) but really enjoyed the experience. The next class was Friday night and the class was going to go to a local Salsa club afterward. FYI, it's particularly helpful, when starting out, to go with your class to a club because it provides you with other newbie women to dance with and people to shoot-the-shit with on the sidelines when you don't feel like dancing. This is very important because experienced Salsa dancers tend to ignore the noobs - much more so women than men, because if you can't lead there's no dance.

The class+club experience changed me for life. I forced myself to "scout" the club and get up the balls to ask a girl to dance. That act is one of the most frightening in the world; I've done back country powder runs off of 60ft cliffs and that doesn't even compare to the feeling of walking up to a gorgeous (even more gorgeous when she's dancing), critical, and experienced woman and asking her for a dance - especially after having watched her be lead like a pro by another hot, well dressed, and experienced dancer. But you do it and do it again and sooner or later your dancing will get better and the regulars at the club will remember you - women who dance regularly at a club go there for connection, so being goofy, fun and conversive on the dance floor won me their affections. Unlike a lot of men, I also had the balls to ask them for a dance; I was also improving very quickly.

I'm now at the point where I dance for a Salsa team, made numerous casual friendships, and had made a couple of girlfriends out of those I met while dancing. Salsa is a social hobby, I do it casually like most people go to the movies except I'm using my body, meeting fun people, and interacting with the opposite sex in an intimate manner most of us in the West don't get to do anywhere else. Salsa, if you love it, will become a big part of your life.

I won't bore everyone with the rest of my personal life story but I do hope this is an inspiring comment for you and anyone else that ever "deals" with their loneliness rather than actually embracing it and doing something about it.

Re: Ask HN: How do you cope with loneliness?

#48

Use your loneliness as an advantage. How? Being lonely means that you don't belong to any group and are free to move as you see fit. This is what I did, and it worked. I assume that you start from 0 friends (I did, since I moved to another country some months ago). Start knowing someone close and easy: classmates, colleagues, occasional acquaintances, but beware not to be stuck with someone as lonely as you. Your obj…

A bit OT, but the original, Japanese version of the movie "Shall We Dance" is very enjoyable, and maybe even speaks to the "dance" responses in this thread, a bit.

Re: Ask HN: How do you cope with loneliness?

#49
When I was at Purdue University, Molecular Biology is just as lonely, I joined an International House a fraternity that housed us and non us students in one place with weekly parties.

The weekly parties were set up as cultural exchanges where we had interesting meals, presentations and social gatherings.

If it is a State or non-state USA college I am sure that one of these types of fraternities exists to help the social interaction aspect.

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