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Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by pducks32 »

billconan wrote: post #129

I want to see a gameplay video. the occlusion effect in AR doesn't seem to be easy to implement. I previously saw a startup doing it using a detailed 3d scan of a city.

The occlusion would need scans form the phone which I can think of one company that can do it fast, then you need to figure out where in the world the user is if you want to occlude using buildings, etc. I know of one company doing that. Neither are working with Microsoft as far as I know.

(I work for the latter company and we do VPS: the thing you'd need to build the game I assume people will glean from the video but they are totally not releasing.)

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by downrightmike »

fenomas wrote: post #84

Since there's not much info on this, and since I missed the relevant thread last week, I'll just note here for the record that Mojang's other recent release, a browser-based retro game called Minecraft Classic, was built on my voxel game engine. [game] https://classic.minecraft.net/ [engine] https://github.com/andyhall/noa/ if anyone's interested. It's pretty weird waking up one morning to find out that Mojang built…

Sucks that a multi-billion dollar franchise looks like it is walking all over you, are they contributing anything back?

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by emilfihlman »

emilfihlman wrote: post #159
fenomas wrote: post #84

Since there's not much info on this, and since I missed the relevant thread last week, I'll just note here for the record that Mojang's other recent release, a browser-based retro game called Minecraft Classic, was built on my voxel game engine. [game] https://classic.minecraft.net/ [engine] https://github.com/andyhall/noa/ if anyone's interested. It's pretty weird waking up one morning to find out that Mojang built…

The FPS counter is horribly off.

Not sure why the negative points here. The game plays extremely laggy and with input delay on my Surface Pro 3, yet the FPS counter shows always above 40fps, usually over 100.

The FPS counter is horribly off and does not represent real life.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by brainpool »

BubRoss wrote: post #165
fenomas wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you! But I don't know a thing about it - I only found out it existed because an internet citizen looked at the source and let me know.

It's a little bizarre that they didn't get in touch with you at all.

Modus operandi of predatory organisations.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by drdeca »

anoncake wrote: post #199
joshuamorton wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a cynical and wrong viewpoint. Companies are made up of people, and people don't always act in the absolute for-profit interests of the companies. Further, companies can, and do, sometimes take actions that aren't directly profit oriented. And the trope about shareholder liability making it illegal for a company to not act in a directly profitable way is wrong .

It's a cynical and mostly correct viewpoint. Companies that don't make their workers act in their profit interests exist, but they aren't successful. Microsoft is not among them. When the market works, at least. So it's actually quite possible that Microsoft is being nice and "inefficient" here.

“Mostly correct” is also “somewhat incorrect”.

Also, I think there are probably sufficiently small decreases in expected profit ithat many large companies would tolerate.

And even aside from that, there is the possibility of a choice between options which does not have any large-enough-to-predict-or-evaluate-its-direction impact on the bottom line, and in these cases, the decision will likely be made in accordance with how some people working there prefer.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by xena »

samayylmao wrote: post #191
SwiftyBug wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had some similar experiences. When that happened I couldn't sleep very well and pretty much dreamt of code.

My sleep code always compiles and always works as intended.

It was really easy to tell dreams apart from reality until the compilers started working.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by doesnt_know »

ajnin wrote: post #167
steve_taylor wrote: post #104

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If this library was GPL licensed, Mojang/Microsft wouldn’t have bothered taking the time to even evaluate it.

That's an interesting dilemma. If your goal is to get your source code to be used by lots of people, then it seems logical to use an as permisive license as possible to "compete" with other open source projects. But it might be short-sighted, because then if your code gets incorporated in proprietary projects it may become used a lot, but it won't propagate, it won't generate new projects that might get even more use…

> That's an interesting dilemma.

It's not a dilemma at all for those that explicitly choose the GPL over MIT because they believe in Free Software (others might choose GPL for other reasons....).

Being Free and having every user of the software retain their Freedom is the literal point of the GPL. Saying "hey, your software would be used by lots more people if we make a proprietary product out of it" is undermining the entire point of the Free Software movement....

So it's more ethical if 10 people use your software and they retain their Freedom, then it is for 10 million to use it bundled in a proprietary product.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by AgentME »

vidarh wrote: post #133
retube wrote: post #107

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Can a server be hosted at home, or does it need to be on a proper hosting platform? Windows or linux?

On top of what others have mentioned: There are basically two version of Minecraft at this point. The "classic" Java version, and the MCPE version, which is what you get on Apple devices, Android and the "native" Windows 10 version. The latter has "realms", where you can just pay to have Microsoft host it for you, and is tied into Xbox Live.

The official names of the different versions are "Java Edition" and "Bedrock Edition".

Java Edition is the one that lets you run your own server, is more moddable, and works on Windows, Mac, and Linux.

Bedrock Edition is the one that works on Windows, consoles, and mobile. People can invite people into their own world as long as they're online. Your only private server option is Realms, which is a subscription service. (Edit: Apparently there is finally publicly-available server software for Bedrock Edition. I doubt it's very moddable though, so don't expect to be able to run a public server with all the modded tools you'd expect if you were familiar with running Java Edition servers. Also, I don't think the console versions of Minecraft can join arbitrary servers.)

The Java Edition and Bedrock edition are not cross-compatible with each other. They are fully compatible within each-other though. Bedrock Edition supports cross-play between different consoles and PC, etc.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by dbt00 »

brainpool wrote: post #205
BubRoss wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a little bizarre that they didn't get in touch with you at all.

Modus operandi of predatory organisations.

Or, completely in keeping with the open source license he made it under?

https://github.com/andyhall/noa/blob/master/LICENSE.txt

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