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Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by samayylmao »

SwiftyBug wrote: post #185
Gene_Parmesan wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try spending ~20 hours in a week playing serious racing sims complete with wheel and real-feeling pedals, then hopping into your car on the weekend to drive cross-state to visit family. I also got this with programming at least once. I had been spending all night trying to get something with my WPF view models working (and failing). When I finally got into bed, I was having trouble falling asleep because I was just "…

I've had some similar experiences. When that happened I couldn't sleep very well and pretty much dreamt of code.

My sleep code always compiles and always works as intended.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by cameronbrown »

ArlenBales wrote: post #189
yohann305 wrote: post #94

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what an achievement, good job! I hope you'll get handsomely paid for it, cheers

The best compensation they could do is reach out to Microsoft/Mojang for a job. Being the author of the game engine for a company's product is probably #1 in qualifications.

Unfortunately Minecraft Classic is just a recreation of the game from 10 years ago in the browser. I doubt it's going to get further development.

That said the author of the engine has definitely achieved something here.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by ilovetux »

ajnin wrote: post #167
steve_taylor wrote: post #104

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If this library was GPL licensed, Mojang/Microsft wouldn’t have bothered taking the time to even evaluate it.

That's an interesting dilemma. If your goal is to get your source code to be used by lots of people, then it seems logical to use an as permisive license as possible to "compete" with other open source projects. But it might be short-sighted, because then if your code gets incorporated in proprietary projects it may become used a lot, but it won't propagate, it won't generate new projects that might get even more use…

> If all open source projects could collaborate and choose a single license, what would it be ?

I don't think this is possible really. Even the FSF who IMO are some of the most vocal supporters of user and developer empowerment created the LGPL to solve this very problem. Some of their software (like glibc) is licensed under the more permissive LGPL instead of the GPL to foster adoption[0].

An except from [0]:

> This is why we used the Lesser GPL for the GNU C library. After all, there are plenty of other C libraries; using the GPL for ours would have driven proprietary software developers to use another—no problem for them, only for us.

[0] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by settsu »

> Picture the scene: you’re walking through your neighbourhood and see a patch of grass. Grass is lovely and all, but you see this patch every day. It’s getting a little dull and is practically begging for a talented builder to brighten it up. So you take out your phone and craft a beautiful Minecraft build on a nearby picnic table. Then you place your colourful new Minecraft creation on the real-life grass.

So now we're gamifying gentrification and incentivizing the idea of covering the earth with human constructions? (It's certainly arguable, but at least Pokemon Go encourages physical activity and social interaction.)

Yes, I know I'm being reactionary but this just feels wrong, not to mention a misguided application of the Minecraft concept. Is this is the best they could do? Is this really all we can expect of AR at this stage?

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by anoncake »

joshuamorton wrote: post #115
behringer wrote: post #100

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and now the reason for the GNU GPL license becomes apparent. If some unfathomably wealthy corporation founded by one of the richest person to have ever lived isn't going to pay you for your work, at least you can get something out of it by making them open source their work.

GPL likely wouldn't have had any effect here. Classic is offered over the web, so only the AGPL would be relevant (or well, I'm not actually sure how GPL applies to JS apps served over the web but run in browser), and anyway, it's not like MS is making money from Minecraft classic, for a lot of people they did get something out of it: a cool game.

MS is a for-profit company. If offering Minecraft classic made them no money, they wouldn't do it.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by positr0n »

Gene_Parmesan wrote: post #172
andrepd wrote: post #162

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>A few days later, I was walking toward the railroad crossing I often had to wait at between my house and campus, and just for a moment looked at those tracks and I seriously thought about where I should place the Minecraft blocks to build a bridge and avoid waiting for the train. This is called the tetris effect. I've had it with, you guessed it, tetris. Whenever I get a bout of addiction and play tetris for an hour…

Try spending ~20 hours in a week playing serious racing sims complete with wheel and real-feeling pedals, then hopping into your car on the weekend to drive cross-state to visit family. I also got this with programming at least once. I had been spending all night trying to get something with my WPF view models working (and failing). When I finally got into bed, I was having trouble falling asleep because I was just "…

I've had experiences like that with a crying newborn in the middle of the night. I visualized a terminal full of log messages and considered what commands to run or if I should just reboot and see if that fixed the problem. Started laughing when I woke up a little more, haha.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by joshuamorton »

anoncake wrote: post #195
joshuamorton wrote: post #115

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GPL likely wouldn't have had any effect here. Classic is offered over the web, so only the AGPL would be relevant (or well, I'm not actually sure how GPL applies to JS apps served over the web but run in browser), and anyway, it's not like MS is making money from Minecraft classic, for a lot of people they did get something out of it: a cool game.

MS is a for-profit company. If offering Minecraft classic made them no money, they wouldn't do it.

This is a cynical and wrong viewpoint. Companies are made up of people, and people don't always act in the absolute for-profit interests of the companies. Further, companies can, and do, sometimes take actions that aren't directly profit oriented. And the trope about shareholder liability making it illegal for a company to not act in a directly profitable way is wrong.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by behringer »

phreeza wrote: post #125
behringer wrote: post #100

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and now the reason for the GNU GPL license becomes apparent. If some unfathomably wealthy corporation founded by one of the richest person to have ever lived isn't going to pay you for your work, at least you can get something out of it by making them open source their work.

Had it been licenced gpl, Mojang would probably not have used it.

Then someone would have gotten paid to make it.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by anoncake »

joshuamorton wrote: post #197
anoncake wrote: post #195

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MS is a for-profit company. If offering Minecraft classic made them no money, they wouldn't do it.

This is a cynical and wrong viewpoint. Companies are made up of people, and people don't always act in the absolute for-profit interests of the companies. Further, companies can, and do, sometimes take actions that aren't directly profit oriented. And the trope about shareholder liability making it illegal for a company to not act in a directly profitable way is wrong .

It's a cynical and mostly correct viewpoint. Companies that don't make their workers act in their profit interests exist, but they aren't successful. Microsoft is not among them.

When the market works, at least. So it's actually quite possible that Microsoft is being nice and "inefficient" here.

Re: New Game: Minecraft Earth

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Post by orthoxerox »

Gene_Parmesan wrote: post #172
andrepd wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>A few days later, I was walking toward the railroad crossing I often had to wait at between my house and campus, and just for a moment looked at those tracks and I seriously thought about where I should place the Minecraft blocks to build a bridge and avoid waiting for the train. This is called the tetris effect. I've had it with, you guessed it, tetris. Whenever I get a bout of addiction and play tetris for an hour…

Try spending ~20 hours in a week playing serious racing sims complete with wheel and real-feeling pedals, then hopping into your car on the weekend to drive cross-state to visit family. I also got this with programming at least once. I had been spending all night trying to get something with my WPF view models working (and failing). When I finally got into bed, I was having trouble falling asleep because I was just "…

I once was woken up in the middle of the night by stomach cramps. The project I was working on for a financial customer was in crunch mode, so as I sat down on the crapper I started thinking if I was pooping from a balance or an off-balance account. A moment later I realized that was a dumb question: you can't keep the food you've eaten on your balance sheet! It took me a minute more or so to finally come to my senses.
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