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Coca-Cola most common source of packaging pollution on UK beaches: study
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#192Why can't we just go to 100% aluminium for beverage packaging? The technology and supply chains etc. are already in place.
I think the aluminium cans have a thin plastic or polymer coating on the inside too, which stops the drink from tasting like metal... so not sure if it's 100% plastic free either.
They do have a liner, here's a video of someone removing the can from the coke:
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd say make it a semi-luxury product. A once/twice per month $3.75 - $5.75 pleasure that comes in a glass bottle. The sweet refreshing taste of Coca-Cola should not be an everyday thing (otherwise it becomes an health issue). So you reduce C02 & health impact and maintain profitability.
And who determines the amount an individual can consume per month? I have friends and family that drink at least a bottle a day and have no plans on stopping.
Coca-Cola is nice, but have they tried water?
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it really debatable about "who" left the garbage on the ground? Even if something only lasts a couple years, do we still want biodegrading trash littering everything? (we have raw food products right now, I wouldn't want those on the beach either...)
Oh come on. It's abundantly clear that placing blame and expectation entirely on the shoulders of consumers is bollocks. Humans drop litter - just look at any festival, concert, or sports match. When it was your granddad it was mostly paper bags, maybe wrapped in newspaper, maybe a few crown corks. The glass got carefully taken home as there was a hefty deposit on those beer bottles! Now it's knee-deep single use eve…
The consumer IS the problem. Coca Cola can manufacture better bottles IF the consumer were willing to pay for it.
But they aren't. Would you pay twice the price for the same coke, but in a glass bottle?
It's the consumers demand for cheaper products, and subsequent disposal, that's the issue.
We could regulate away plastic bottles and prices would jump, and some portion of the population would rightly protest that it's the poor who suffer.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you develop an app, and everybody using your app always ends up deleting their data by clicking on the wrong button, and then people complain that your app loses data... ...in the end, the users are wrong in the moment, but the real problem is that your app allows a behavior that has negative outcomes, and the proper fix isn't to educate people, but to make it impossible for people to click that delete button so e…
On the otherhand I have tons of first hand experience with bottles, and its a very simple task to take care of your own trash. Its just a matter of doing it.
Went with cowerkers hiking once, we had more than enough to drink with us. What we didn't plan on was a convenient way to carry the bottles, so around half way to our target we had to rest and decide what to do with them. Either leave them there and collect them on the way back or accept that they will be a pain to carry around for the rest of the day. We later found a place where we could drop them off, but getting there was far from just "doing it".
Lesson learned: plan ahead and get something convenient to carry.
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the US machines simply won’t pay for bottles purchased out of state. That’s my experience in Michigan, anyway.
For the vast majority of bottles that's not a problem surely. Edit: same here in Norway, Swedish and Danish bottles are not redeemable here but it is definitely not a big enough problem to matter.
Not saying it’s a problem. It is that way to prevent people from buying bottles in Indiana, not paying the deposit, and driving to Michigan to get 10c a bottle.
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#197The survey found that 10 companies were responsible for more than half of the identifiably branded rubbish found on the UK’s beaches." But are they? Isn't this shifting the blame from the end user that improperly disposes of their trash to the company? Sure, they could do more to reduce packaging issues, but in the end, it is the consumer that is tossing these things out rather than recycling them.
If you develop an app, and everybody using your app always ends up deleting their data by clicking on the wrong button, and then people complain that your app loses data... ...in the end, the users are wrong in the moment, but the real problem is that your app allows a behavior that has negative outcomes, and the proper fix isn't to educate people, but to make it impossible for people to click that delete button so e…
>If you develop an app, and everybody using your app always ends up deleting their data by clicking on the wrong button, and then people complain that your app loses data...
Throwing trash on the ground is not comparable to clicking the wrong button.
There is no confusion going on here, only laziness.
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#198Even with zero packaging, their product is addictive poison. Buffett has spoken proudly of how, normally the human body would not be able to drink that much sugar without getting immediately sick, but the coke formula overcomes that sugar overload response. Disgusting.
What about Coke Zero?
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Japan everything is overpackaged using ridiculous amounts of plastic (more so than in Europe, for example), and yet people don't litter. I think it's important to tackle the issue from both ends.
> and yet people don't litter. I don't buy it. See CydeWeys's comments around this thread. Also, having lots of people cleaning the streets only makes it look like there's little littering. > I think it's important to tackle the issue from both ends. Sure. Thing is, tackling it from the corporate end will be ridiculously more effective than trying to instill new societal norms.
1. There are countries where littering is "expected" and a normal part of society. (I've seen this culture in the US, they will dump their trash directly in the street)
2. There are countries where littering is both "illegal" and socially "unacceptable". (it's generally shameful to litter)
Which countries will have less litter if corporations are incentivized to change their products or make less stuff?
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it really debatable about "who" left the garbage on the ground? Even if something only lasts a couple years, do we still want biodegrading trash littering everything? (we have raw food products right now, I wouldn't want those on the beach either...)
Sometimes people litter by accident. On many hikes I've picked up things which have either fallen out of a backpack - like a still sealed energy drink - or was forgotten there - like a jacket.
Of course, but if this was the only litter, or the majority of it, that would be great.
I was taught from a young age not to litter, so are my kids.
It's a simple idea that's "free" and can be used everywhere to stop litter today.