I've often wondered how much of the IPv4 address space is legacy allocations that are not at all being fully utilized. Perhaps the market for IPv4 addresses has worked this out, and anyone that has such an allocation has cashed in.
The IPs in question were directly assigned to the defendant by ARIN based on fraudulent requests. They weren't fraudulently transferred from existing allocations.
Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked
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Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked
#22I always wondered if someone had created a biz for the purpose of hoarding IPv4 with intent to “sell them”. We talked about this kind of abuse back in the 90s when I worked for a hosting company. Part of my job was filling out ARIN templates and SWIP and all that nonsense. Justification was easy, but it occurred to me how easy it would be to fake requests and just pay the trivial fees. There were already some busines…
There is an active, mature market for IPv4 addresses (just google "IPv4 address broker"), so it stands to reason that there are people hoarding them for speculation. It's not free money, of course -- it's entirely possible that the value goes down, as things that reduce the pressure on the IPv4 address space slowly come online (CGNAT and IPv6) That said, I'm a bit confused by this story. ARIN ran out of addresses in…
Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked
#23If we could recover all IP addresses that are not in use now (especially from those who got a /8) we would breath some air, given that ipv6 is basically not happening.
Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked
#24If we could recover all IP addresses that are not in use now (especially from those who got a /8) we would breath some air, given that ipv6 is basically not happening.
Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked
#25If we could recover all IP addresses that are not in use now (especially from those who got a /8) we would breath some air, given that ipv6 is basically not happening.
Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked
#26Is this going to lower the prices?
Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked
#27Does anyone know the address ranges that are affected?
IP Block Entity Number of IP addresses
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104.166.96.0/19 OppoBox 8,192
104.247.96.0/19 OppoBox 8,192
104.250.224.0/19 OppoBox 8,192
172.98.0.0/18 Telentia 16,384
174.136.192.0/18 Telentia 16,384
45.41.0.0/18 OppoBox 16,384
45.41.192.0/18 OppoBox 16,384
45.59.128.0/18 OppoBox 16,384
104.167.192.0/18 OppoBox 16,384
104.224.0.0/18 OppoBox 16,384
104.249.128.0/18 OppoBox 16,384
155.254.192.0/18 OppoBox 16,384
172.110.128.0/18 OppoBox 16,384
172.111.0.0/18 OppoBox 16,384
169.197.128.0/18 Border Technology 16,384
172.81.0.0/18 Border Technology 16,384
107.181.64.0/20 Contina 4,096
167.160.96.0/19 Contina 8,192
209.161.96.0/20 Telentia 4,096
104.128.16.0/20 Telentia 4,096
104.143.192.0/19 Telentia 8,192
104.222.192.0/19 Telentia 8,192
104.247.0.0/19 Telentia 8,192
107.190.160.0/20 OppoBox 4,096
107.182.112.0/20 OppoBox 4,096
104.207.64.0/19 OppoBox 8,192
155.254.96.0/19 OppoBox 8,192
167.88.96.0/20 Virtuzo 4,096
104.128.128.0/20 Virtuzo 4,096
104.156.192.0/19 Virtuzo 8,192
104.222.128.0/19 Virtuzo 8,192
104.143.16.0/20 Roya 4,096
104.237.80.0/20 Univera Network 4,096
45.62.32.0/19 Univera Network 8,192
45.61.32.0/20 Border Technology 4,096
173.44.0.0/19 Border Technology 8,192
172.97.80.0/20 Fiber Galaxy 4,096
206.223.224.0/19 Fiber Galaxy 8,192
172.102.128.0/20 Queen Systems 4,096
209.209.224.0/19 Queen Systems 8,192
172.110.208.0/20 Fairway Network 4,096
207.189.0.0/19 Fairway Network 8,192Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked
#28If we could recover all IP addresses that are not in use now (especially from those who got a /8) we would breath some air, given that ipv6 is basically not happening.
How is IPv6 not happening? Google shows pretty good growth: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html
Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked
#29I always wondered if someone had created a biz for the purpose of hoarding IPv4 with intent to “sell them”. We talked about this kind of abuse back in the 90s when I worked for a hosting company. Part of my job was filling out ARIN templates and SWIP and all that nonsense. Justification was easy, but it occurred to me how easy it would be to fake requests and just pay the trivial fees. There were already some busines…
Backstory: we have an old AC unit that uses freon.
The repairman mentioned that freon is no longer available for new AC units. I asked if you could still buy freon and he said yes, existing supplies were grandfathered in.
I then commented that the price of freon must have sky-rocketed and he said: "yes, it did for a while but then it became cheaper to just get a new unit rather than fill up an old unit with freon."
I would imagine that as the price of IPv4 addresses crosses some threshold, people will just start going to IPv6.
As Michael Crichton once said in one of his books: "There was no subsidy that caused people to switch from horses to cars". They were just cheaper and easier to operate.
Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked
#30Anyone here know a good place to buy or lease ipv4? Is this going to lower the prices?
This looks like a blip compared to demand so I wouldn't expect prices to drop.