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Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

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Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

#21
post #15

I've often wondered how much of the IPv4 address space is legacy allocations that are not at all being fully utilized. Perhaps the market for IPv4 addresses has worked this out, and anyone that has such an allocation has cashed in.

The IPs in question were directly assigned to the defendant by ARIN based on fraudulent requests. They weren't fraudulently transferred from existing allocations.

Thank you. I misread the article. I edited my post to take out the incorrect part.

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

#22
post #2

I always wondered if someone had created a biz for the purpose of hoarding IPv4 with intent to “sell them”. We talked about this kind of abuse back in the 90s when I worked for a hosting company. Part of my job was filling out ARIN templates and SWIP and all that nonsense. Justification was easy, but it occurred to me how easy it would be to fake requests and just pay the trivial fees. There were already some busines…

There is an active, mature market for IPv4 addresses (just google "IPv4 address broker"), so it stands to reason that there are people hoarding them for speculation. It's not free money, of course -- it's entirely possible that the value goes down, as things that reduce the pressure on the IPv4 address space slowly come online (CGNAT and IPv6) That said, I'm a bit confused by this story. ARIN ran out of addresses in…

IIRC you can get a laughably small number from ARIN if you say the right things, and you could get a slightly less laughably number in the past. Try saying you're an ISP and all your customers are dualstack already but you need 128 v4 addresses for compatibility or CGNAT or your DNS caches or something.

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

#24
post #16

If we could recover all IP addresses that are not in use now (especially from those who got a /8) we would breath some air, given that ipv6 is basically not happening.

How is IPv6 not happening? Google shows pretty good growth: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

#25
post #16

If we could recover all IP addresses that are not in use now (especially from those who got a /8) we would breath some air, given that ipv6 is basically not happening.

At what share of deployment would you consider v6 as happening — 10%? 20%? 40%? 60%? 80%? 90? Or would you require even more than 100% of the people who have v4 access?

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

#27

Does anyone know the address ranges that are affected?

Converted (OCR) from PDF:

    IP Block            Entity              Number of IP addresses 
    ------------------- ------------------- ----------------------
    104.166.96.0/19     OppoBox             8,192 
    104.247.96.0/19     OppoBox             8,192 
    104.250.224.0/19    OppoBox             8,192 
    172.98.0.0/18       Telentia            16,384 
    174.136.192.0/18    Telentia            16,384 
    45.41.0.0/18        OppoBox             16,384 
    45.41.192.0/18      OppoBox             16,384 
    45.59.128.0/18      OppoBox             16,384 
    104.167.192.0/18    OppoBox             16,384 
    104.224.0.0/18      OppoBox             16,384 
    104.249.128.0/18    OppoBox             16,384 
    155.254.192.0/18    OppoBox             16,384 
    172.110.128.0/18    OppoBox             16,384 
    172.111.0.0/18      OppoBox             16,384 
    169.197.128.0/18    Border Technology   16,384 
    172.81.0.0/18       Border Technology   16,384 
    107.181.64.0/20     Contina             4,096
    167.160.96.0/19     Contina             8,192
    209.161.96.0/20     Telentia            4,096
    104.128.16.0/20     Telentia            4,096
    104.143.192.0/19    Telentia            8,192
    104.222.192.0/19    Telentia            8,192
    104.247.0.0/19      Telentia            8,192
    107.190.160.0/20    OppoBox             4,096
    107.182.112.0/20    OppoBox             4,096
    104.207.64.0/19     OppoBox             8,192
    155.254.96.0/19     OppoBox             8,192
    167.88.96.0/20      Virtuzo             4,096
    104.128.128.0/20    Virtuzo             4,096
    104.156.192.0/19    Virtuzo             8,192
    104.222.128.0/19    Virtuzo             8,192
    104.143.16.0/20     Roya                4,096
    104.237.80.0/20     Univera Network     4,096
    45.62.32.0/19       Univera Network     8,192
    45.61.32.0/20       Border Technology   4,096
    173.44.0.0/19       Border Technology   8,192
    172.97.80.0/20      Fiber Galaxy        4,096
    206.223.224.0/19    Fiber Galaxy        8,192
    172.102.128.0/20    Queen Systems       4,096
    209.209.224.0/19    Queen Systems       8,192
    172.110.208.0/20    Fairway Network     4,096
    207.189.0.0/19      Fairway Network     8,192

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

#28
post #16

If we could recover all IP addresses that are not in use now (especially from those who got a /8) we would breath some air, given that ipv6 is basically not happening.

How is IPv6 not happening? Google shows pretty good growth: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

It's interesting that the number fluctuates so much every weekend. I guess it's caused by people accessing the Internet from home instead of from the office. It's more than I expected.

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

#29
post #2

I always wondered if someone had created a biz for the purpose of hoarding IPv4 with intent to “sell them”. We talked about this kind of abuse back in the 90s when I worked for a hosting company. Part of my job was filling out ARIN templates and SWIP and all that nonsense. Justification was easy, but it occurred to me how easy it would be to fake requests and just pay the trivial fees. There were already some busines…

This reminds me of a conversation I had with the AC repairman last year.

Backstory: we have an old AC unit that uses freon.

The repairman mentioned that freon is no longer available for new AC units. I asked if you could still buy freon and he said yes, existing supplies were grandfathered in.

I then commented that the price of freon must have sky-rocketed and he said: "yes, it did for a while but then it became cheaper to just get a new unit rather than fill up an old unit with freon."

I would imagine that as the price of IPv4 addresses crosses some threshold, people will just start going to IPv6.

As Michael Crichton once said in one of his books: "There was no subsidy that caused people to switch from horses to cars". They were just cheaper and easier to operate.

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

#30
post #26

Anyone here know a good place to buy or lease ipv4? Is this going to lower the prices?

https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/transfers/stls/regis...

This looks like a blip compared to demand so I wouldn't expect prices to drop.

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