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Re: Mac: Keyboard Shortcuts Killed by Bug

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Post by anbop »

Bahamut wrote: post #39
jacobsenscott wrote: post #27

I doubt it is developer apathy. It smells like a management issue. iOS is where the money is. I don't know anyone at apple, but here's how I imagine it is there: Every OSX engineer probably has more bugs on their plate than can be fixed in one career, in addition to feature development tasks. The OSX team is severely understaffed both because it is not a priority at Apple, and because it is getting harder and harder…

There's no "OSX team" at Apple. That would go against Apple's whole corporate structure.

Surely there is some team that develops OS X. That is the OS X team.

Re: Mac: Keyboard Shortcuts Killed by Bug

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Post by btown »

BetterTouchTool - https://folivora.ai/ - patches over many of these "rough edges" in macOS, including the arbitrary-keyboard-shortcuts-for-menu-items requirement of the OP. I think it's generally true that while the polished-ness of Apple's own software has deteriorated somewhat, the ecosystem of utilities largely fills that gap... except where it comes to hardware, where the butterfly keyboard problems infuriate me daily to no end.

Re: Mac: Keyboard Shortcuts Killed by Bug

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Post by jacobsenscott »

tomduncalf wrote: post #38
jacobsenscott wrote: post #27

I doubt it is developer apathy. It smells like a management issue. iOS is where the money is. I don't know anyone at apple, but here's how I imagine it is there: Every OSX engineer probably has more bugs on their plate than can be fixed in one career, in addition to feature development tasks. The OSX team is severely understaffed both because it is not a priority at Apple, and because it is getting harder and harder…

The iPhone integrations (assuming you mean Handover) are one of my favourite parts of the MacOS/iOS ecosystem and one of many reasons why I can't see myself moving away from either OS for a long time. I've also experienced very few bugs in MacOS which have affected me on a day to day basis. Not saying they aren't there, but to me the MacOS team are doing a pretty great job.

For any feature on OSX there are some people who love that feature. But the reality is the core reliability of OSX has been declining for years, and many of the bugs are becoming more egregious. Especially some of the recent security issues. They are all symptoms of an under-resourced team. I have no doubt the OSX engineers are heroes to a person. But I can't imagine they have the resources they need. I also can't imagine Apple really cares when accessories appear to be on track to generate more revenue than macs in a few years.

Re: Mac: Keyboard Shortcuts Killed by Bug

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Post by seandougall »

Bahamut wrote: post #39
jacobsenscott wrote: post #27

I doubt it is developer apathy. It smells like a management issue. iOS is where the money is. I don't know anyone at apple, but here's how I imagine it is there: Every OSX engineer probably has more bugs on their plate than can be fixed in one career, in addition to feature development tasks. The OSX team is severely understaffed both because it is not a priority at Apple, and because it is getting harder and harder…

There's no "OSX team" at Apple. That would go against Apple's whole corporate structure.

No, but there certainly is a macOS team.

Re: Mac: Keyboard Shortcuts Killed by Bug

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Post by astericks »

anbop wrote: post #41
Bahamut wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no "OSX team" at Apple. That would go against Apple's whole corporate structure.

Surely there is some team that develops OS X. That is the OS X team.

Well, officially, OS X doesn't exist anymore. It's "Mac OS" now I believe. But yes, they'd be the Mac OS team

Re: Mac: Keyboard Shortcuts Killed by Bug

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Post by robenkleene »

arthurcolle wrote: post #18
jbverschoor wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And overall power usage. I think I probably know more shortcuts and optimizations on macOS than most people at Apple.

Have any tricks you want to share? My MBP 15" gets 2 hr tops unless its plugged in. Even with "mere" web browsing

Click the battery indicator in your menu bar and see which apps are listed as "using significant energy"?

Go one level deeper and open "Activity Monitor" and look at the energy impact for the apps you are using. Unless you use Safari, which is wonderfully energy-effecient, then the most likely culprit is your web browser, especially if you're using Google Chrome. Personally, I'd use Safari over Chrome for the energy efficiency alone, but I understand people have different priorities.

You can also check the health of your battery by doing "Apple Menu" -> "About This Mac" -> "System Report…" and then selecting "Power" in the side bar. (Google for the expected charge capacity for your laptop model.)

Re: Mac: Keyboard Shortcuts Killed by Bug

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Post by larkost »

anbop wrote: post #41
Bahamut wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no "OSX team" at Apple. That would go against Apple's whole corporate structure.

Surely there is some team that develops OS X. That is the OS X team.

No, much of the codebase is shared, and where the codebase is not shared the teams usually are. There are undoutably exceptions to this, and this may fall into one of those, but your blanket statement is just not how Apple operates internally.

Re: Mac: Keyboard Shortcuts Killed by Bug

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Post by thelopa »

anbop wrote: post #41
Bahamut wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no "OSX team" at Apple. That would go against Apple's whole corporate structure.

Surely there is some team that develops OS X. That is the OS X team.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but they are right. there isn't an OSX team. Apple doesn't slice things up that way. If there were an OSX team then surely there would be a manager for that team, right? The only person that could plausibly fill that role is Craig Federighi... but he arguably fills the same role for iOS, too.

In the Scott Forstall days, there was a distinct iOS team (Scott) and a distinct OSX team (Craig). now there isn't.

Re: Mac: Keyboard Shortcuts Killed by Bug

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Post by anbop »

thelopa wrote: post #48
anbop wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely there is some team that develops OS X. That is the OS X team.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but they are right. there isn't an OSX team. Apple doesn't slice things up that way. If there were an OSX team then surely there would be a manager for that team, right? The only person that could plausibly fill that role is Craig Federighi... but he arguably fills the same role for iOS, too. In the Scott Forstall days, there was a distinct iOS team (Scott) and a distinct OSX team…

Sure, there is one exec, but there must be someone under him who is responsible for OS X.
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