Exercises to craft an employer brand that makes engineers want to work for you

Post by burntoutcase » Wed, May 15, 2019, 1:42 PM UTC

yeahitslikethat wrote: post #59

burntoutcase wrote: post #7

I don't give a shit about your brand. I'm selling my labor to survive. I'll give you your money's worth for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week (with overtime if I fuck up and need to work late to make it right), but while my time and effort are for sale, my emotions aren't. You can't possibly pay me enough to actually give a damn about you or your bullshit brand or your bullshit product. You can only pay me enough to work…

I won't work for a company I don't care about. If it's not doing something good and especially if it is doing something bad, I just cannot work there. I feel ill. Psychologically overwhelmed by cognitive dissonance. That can only go on for a week or two before I just stop working for them.

I guess you're one of those passionate techies that founders love, rather than a mercenary.

Post by dkersten » Sat, May 18, 2019, 1:01 AM UTC

newfangle wrote: post #22

dkersten wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Im sorry but 30 to 35 hours a week, especially at a startup is just not tenable for any company except a small lifestyle company You're right, its still too much. If you want the best engineers to do their best work, I'd put 30 hours as the upper limit.

And im sure that when they work 30 hours they are cutting 30 minutes off of their lunch break and spending less time in the bathroom and on reddit.

Maybe not, but if you offer better than the competitors, then you get people who are a lot, lot better and, in my experience, one of these people is worth much more than the average person working much longer hours. If you want the BEST people, you have to offer better than the alternatives.

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