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Seams odd they closed the case in the first place.
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I’m sure that Assange saw it differently, because otherwise he wouldn’t have trapped himself in an embassy for years.
I think it is more of a question of if he is being honest about the reasons for going to the UK.... "I was avoiding being arrested for rape" doesn't fit his narrative.
Maybe he just raped a girl. Case closed. No huge conspiracies. Question is, if he gets freed, what will happen then?
After that I’d try to disappear in Sweden if I were Assange.
Come on people. We don't have a lot of information to judge on. But if we are having a debate about the meaning of rape, then we are all side stepping the incredible high chance this is politically motivated nonsense. Nobody had ever been extradited for this sort of thing. Sweden is special in that it enabled it based on a testimony, even after the testimony has been revoked and without the victims pressing charges o…
Does it, though? I got the opposite impression: that Sweden is potentially willing to go against US interests and compete for Assange's extradition. It's possible their plan is to convict Assange and then extradite him to the US, but who knows?
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At least under English law, you cannot provide consent in advance; you must have the ability to provide and withdraw consent at the time of the act.
This recent development in English law strikes me as inhuman. It turns the kissing of a sleeping lover into a violent sexual assault. Passion and spontaneity become criminalized.
No, it doesn't.
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So the actual number of extradition requests for alleged sleep-sex-offenders could actually be 0, you didn't even check in detail? This is quite anti-climatic. Alternative outcome: the brits spare 16m £, which they can then invest in fighting real crime. They arrest the alleged offender when flying or at any routine control, since he's not a danger to anyone. Anyone except those unmasked by the leaks.
Having sex with someone who is sleeping is “real rape” and it’s “real crime.” It’s not even a close call.
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At least under English law, you cannot provide consent in advance; you must have the ability to provide and withdraw consent at the time of the act.
That doesn't really seem to eliminate such grey areas. Exactly how many seconds/minutes/hours are allowed to elapse between the question/answer "May I have sex with you?" ... "Yes", and the act taking place? When does consent expire?
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So the actual number of extradition requests for alleged sleep-sex-offenders could actually be 0, you didn't even check in detail? This is quite anti-climatic. Alternative outcome: the brits spare 16m £, which they can then invest in fighting real crime. They arrest the alleged offender when flying or at any routine control, since he's not a danger to anyone. Anyone except those unmasked by the leaks.
I'm not sure why you're trying to hand-wave this away by using language like "alleged sleep-sex-offenders" and "having sex with their sleeping sex partner without a condom". If this falls under the definition of rape in Sweden then the extradition request is for just that - a charge of rape. This is a very serious crime. Whether you agree with their definition or not doesn't really affect the legality or validity of…
The public should focus on the war crimes, torture and corruption, because this will end up in the history books.
Can someone explain to me why the general public has ”turned” on Assange in the last few years? Is it because Wikileaks revealed those Hillary Clinton emails? And that’s the ”protagonist” party? Or is it the rape accusations initiated in Sweden?
It's because the established media got the message to assassinate his character (and unlike e.g. the 60s with the vibrant counter-culture and anti-establishment stances, today most people just follow what's mainstream).
Assange did this to himself, with posting antisemitic tweets and courting the alt-right. And you have Assange's legal defense campaign posting tweets blaming childfree women for white people in Europe being replaced by brown people, which is both disgustingly misogynist and disgustingly racist.
The counter-culture is highly feminist and anti-racist, and is generally led by women of color, so there goes any sympathy they might have for Assange.
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And while it doesn't change the ethical and moral landscape around his alleged actions, people should be aware that what he is accused of is not illegal in the US.
The law in each state of the US is different, but I'm fairly certain in every one sex with someone incapable of consent due to unconsciousness is rape. Rape-by-deception laws are more variable between US states, and the US generally and they are generally new (the last few decades) and still fairly weak, often being driven in each state by desire to address the circumstances of a particular single case where efforts…