Let’s see how long it takes before he is extradited to the US and suddenly disappeared. A year or two?
> suddenly disappeared.
Why not publicly made an example of?
Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extradition
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#63Can someone explain to me why the general public has ”turned” on Assange in the last few years? Is it because Wikileaks revealed those Hillary Clinton emails? And that’s the ”protagonist” party? Or is it the rape accusations initiated in Sweden?
Who is the general public? Clearly, him running away from the Swedish police was a bad thing to do. I also don't like him because he supported/supports Trump. However, prosecuting him for his journalistic work is insane!
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Strangely, a Russian diplomatic car didn't come to pick him up from the Ecuadorian embassy.
Yeah because the second Assange had set foot outside the embassy, the UK cops would have arrested him. Even in a car / "diplomatic bag" the UK cops would have the right to search it for Assange, because, well, a smuggled body isn't exactly "articles intended for official use" (per Art. 27 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations).
I think they mean if he were their asset they’d trade horses like they usually do with assets.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps they are prosecuting him because he is accused of committing a crime?
It seems that the word "rape" is somehow exaggeration. Per Wikipedia (assuming it is reliable source here, hasn't checked sources it cites) "On 20 August 2010, two women, a 26-year-old living in Enköping and a 31-year-old living in Stockholm, reported to the Swedish police that Assange had engaged in unprotected sexual activity with them that violated the scope of their consent. "The next day, the case was transferre…
He was accused of having sex with someone who was asleep and therefore couldn't consent (and the lack of protection showed he was explicitly going against what he knew she wanted). This is rape in the UK and Sweden.
The first prosecutor decided to shelve the case. One of the victim's lawyers asked for this decision to be reviewed. A more senior prosecutor resumed the case.
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#67This is just to save face and make it look like the whole thing wasn't driven by US pressure from the outset. There's no chance he will end up standing trial in Sweden, unlikely they could even bring such a flimsy case to court, and unlikely that the UK would prioritize Sweden's request over the US. I doubt they'll even get round to making a formal extradition request. This is an empty gesture.
> There's no chance he will end up standing trial in Sweden, unlikely they could even bring such a flimsy case to court, and unlikely that the UK would prioritize Sweden's request over the US
Could you link me to the sources you’re using that have you believing this so adamantly?
Re: Sweden reopens Assange rape investigation, to seek extradition
#68Can someone explain to me why the general public has ”turned” on Assange in the last few years? Is it because Wikileaks revealed those Hillary Clinton emails? And that’s the ”protagonist” party? Or is it the rape accusations initiated in Sweden?
Let’s ignore the facts, or the surmises and ask the following: who do you think he should be popular with? The republicans who think releasing the Manning files means he should be in prison? The Democrats after he did everything he could to sabotage them? The progressives for whom his associations with Putin and Farage are beyond the pale? The tech cognoscenti who were complaining he had ruined WikiLeaks by making it all about him even before the rape allegations came out? Women?
I mean, there are still people who are fans, but it’s no mystery why he’s unpopular with many groupings.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
If someone consents to have sex only on the condition of protection from disease and pregnancy, and you trick them into sex without a condom that is rape. There may be differences of degrees to the stereotypical violent behind-the-bushes rape. Those should and would be considered for purposes of sentencing. But it's still rape.
Does the law actually say so? To what extent does "rape by lying" exist? I imagine "I'm actually not a doctor" or "let me just remove my makeup" don't count... How about not paying a prostitute after sex (assuming prostitution is legal), does it count as rape (she consented to sex on the condition of paying) or just theft ? Are women that say they're on the pill but aren't, or that use the man's sperm to impregnate t…
> Does the law actually say so?
Assange argued that the accused act would not be illegal under English law; the High Court disagreed (and hence the dual criminality test was fulfilled).
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#70Let’s see how long it takes before he is extradited to the US and suddenly disappeared. A year or two?
The UK already has an extradition request from the US. This would only delay it.