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Re: Twilio Super SIM

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Until they actually ship and make it GA, I reserve the right to call this vapor ware like the rest of the Twilio announcements in the past year. When is VPN for programmable wireless going to ship? Never?

PM for Super SIM here. We're running this as a closed beta now, hard at work getting it to GA.

Re: Twilio Super SIM

#92

Twilit has been on an absolute tear over the last 2 years. I wasn’t sure what they would do next to innovate, but their evolution to customer support products, authentication solutions and now this are inspired. What sets them apart is that, although they are a US company, they think globally. This product is for a global market, just like their app-based push authentication is (the huge market being Europe which has…

Counterpoint. While Twilio is interesting, I wonder what percentage of their business is simply multifactor authentication. Having previously used a wide range of companies for SMS connectivity (including multilingual, flash SMS, contact forwarding, and raw PDU features), and implemented VOIP systems with privately owned physical PSTN interface infrastructure, recently I looked at Twilio for inbound VOIP and SMS serv…

By being the default option for MFA and SMS automation, they are an approved and contracted vendor at a zillion companies. Getting a customer to upgrade an existing contract is 100x easier than wooing a new customer. Especially when you have a reputation for being rock solid at your specialty.

Re: Twilio Super SIM

#93
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Can this do voice calls? I'm in Canada where every cell plan is more expensive than any other in the world. I have friends who purchase plans from Europe and then use the SIM locally with roaming - turns out it be 10x cheaper, the only drawback being that they have a foreign number

PM for Super SIM here. We're not planning on doing voice calls for the Super SIM, we want to really nail the IoT use case first.

Re: Twilio Super SIM

#94
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Their API has been unchanged for years, which shows me they did it right the first time.

So has Amazon Marketplace Web Services and it is by a huge margin the worst API I've seen my share of bad ones over the years.

And yet it is still better than the Amazon Vendor Central API... which they forgot to build at all

Re: Twilio Super SIM

#96
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This is very cool tech, but it seems like a niche use-case. It's not made for consumers, and the vast majority of IoT devices barely move, let alone between countries. But , if I were working for a haulage company and was interested in tracking, say, truck location, speed etc across the whole of Europe I could see this being a great way to do it.

PM for the Super SIM here. The problem we're trying to solve here isn't so much that the devices moves between countries, that's somewhat solved, especially in the EU. We want to help companies that deploy devices globally simplify their logistics and supply chain by being able to use a single SIM regardless of the destination of the device.

Re: Twilio Super SIM

#98

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€4.50/GB is absolutely insane for Europe. In Italy you can get 50GB for €7 From Kena or ho.mobile (€0.14/GB) or 50GB for €8 from Illiad (€0.16/GB). All at 4G speeds. https://www.kenamobile.it/prodotto/kena-6-99-limited-edition... https://www.ho-mobile.it/ https://www.iliad.it/offerta-iliad.html

Wholesale rate is for businesses where they pay for the actual usage, and consumer-oriented providers, which you mentioned, oversell network capacity.

There's overselling and then there's assuming that the average user is only going to use 3% of their allowance! That seems pretty optimistic. Having said that presumably the wholesale rate varies quite a bit between countries, and I assume some contracts are offered as loss leaders.

Re: Twilio Super SIM

#99
post #90

Until they actually ship and make it GA, I reserve the right to call this vapor ware like the rest of the Twilio announcements in the past year. When is VPN for programmable wireless going to ship? Never?

PM for Super SIM here. We're running this as a closed beta now, hard at work getting it to GA.

Don't announce a beta unless it's available for public sign up. Or just wait until the product is GA...like a regular company. Otherwise it leads to customer disappointment and disillusionment.

Just pull VPN for programmable wireless from your site. It's clear that it won't launch within a year or two from being "announced".

Re: Twilio Super SIM

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€4.50/GB is absolutely insane for Europe. In Italy you can get 50GB for €7 From Kena or ho.mobile (€0.14/GB) or 50GB for €8 from Illiad (€0.16/GB). All at 4G speeds. https://www.kenamobile.it/prodotto/kena-6-99-limited-edition... https://www.ho-mobile.it/ https://www.iliad.it/offerta-iliad.html

Wholesale rate is for businesses where they pay for the actual usage, and consumer-oriented providers, which you mentioned, oversell network capacity.

The point about the overselling / oversubscribing for consumer rates actually goes counter to your point since every customer (consumer or business) all have the same priority in European networks.
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