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Re: Twilio Super SIM

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Post by reaperducer »

untog wrote: post #9

This is very cool tech, but it seems like a niche use-case. It's not made for consumers, and the vast majority of IoT devices barely move, let alone between countries. But , if I were working for a haulage company and was interested in tracking, say, truck location, speed etc across the whole of Europe I could see this being a great way to do it.

the vast majority of IoT devices barely move, let alone between countries.

Yet.

One of the things holding back the development of truly mobile IoT is ease and ubiquity of connectivity. This tries to solve that.

Think of it as Amazon's Whispernet, but with far more penetration.

Re: Twilio Super SIM

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Post by reaperducer »

sequence7 wrote: post #17
untog wrote: post #9

This is very cool tech, but it seems like a niche use-case. It's not made for consumers, and the vast majority of IoT devices barely move, let alone between countries. But , if I were working for a haulage company and was interested in tracking, say, truck location, speed etc across the whole of Europe I could see this being a great way to do it.

> But, if I were working for a haulage company and was interested in tracking, say, truck location, speed etc across the whole of Europe I could see this being a great way to do it. If you wanted to do that in the EU you just need a sim card with data from any EU country. EU rules on roaming mean that your sim will work across the EU just as it does from its home country. I agree this would be a great use case if you…

Europe > EU

Re: Twilio Super SIM

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Post by watermelon0 »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #67
fyfy18 wrote: post #55

At a first glance the pricing of $0.10 - $0.025 per megabyte in Europe seems somewhat expensive. The wholesale rate is €4.50 per gigabyte or $0.005c per megabyte. I assume the markup covers the cost of maintaining the account and the access to many networks worldwide. Can anyone who is already using GSM data in "IoT" devices comment on how much this compares to what you pay now?

€4.50/GB is absolutely insane for Europe. In Italy you can get 50GB for €7 From Kena or ho.mobile (€0.14/GB) or 50GB for €8 from Illiad (€0.16/GB). All at 4G speeds. https://www.kenamobile.it/prodotto/kena-6-99-limited-edition... https://www.ho-mobile.it/ https://www.iliad.it/offerta-iliad.html

Wholesale rate is for businesses where they pay for the actual usage, and consumer-oriented providers, which you mentioned, oversell network capacity.

Re: Twilio Super SIM

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Post by garyclarke27 »

walterbell wrote: post #63
flyGuyOnTheSly wrote: post #59

Forget IOT, I want this for my phone! It sounds almost too good to be true.

Google Fi has $10/GB global LTE for US residents. Multiple SIM cards sharing the same plan, works on non-Google devices too, including mobile hotspots. In the US, they use T-Mobile.

Yes Google Fi seems great, I just wish they wouold offer it to non US residents.

Re: Twilio Super SIM

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Post by dmix »

detaro wrote: post #10
untog wrote: post #9

This is very cool tech, but it seems like a niche use-case. It's not made for consumers, and the vast majority of IoT devices barely move, let alone between countries. But , if I were working for a haulage company and was interested in tracking, say, truck location, speed etc across the whole of Europe I could see this being a great way to do it.

Even if your IoT devices don't move, do you want to deal with 1-3 companies per country you deploy in and follow market changes there, or is that something you're willing to pay someone else to worry about?

You could sell something like 3g internet connected Kindles and without the overhead of some arrangement with a local carriers which Amazon had to set up with their WAN option (which also works globally).

Re: Twilio Super SIM

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Post by ohashi »

pedrokost wrote: post #58
fyfy18 wrote: post #55

At a first glance the pricing of $0.10 - $0.025 per megabyte in Europe seems somewhat expensive. The wholesale rate is €4.50 per gigabyte or $0.005c per megabyte. I assume the markup covers the cost of maintaining the account and the access to many networks worldwide. Can anyone who is already using GSM data in "IoT" devices comment on how much this compares to what you pay now?

The value Twilio's offering is when you need coverage also outside Europe, in remote countries. Yes, you can get cheaper data plans to cover the EU, but those often come with very high data rates in other areas.

I get $10/GB on Google Fi and can have 9 data only sim cards on my plan for $20/month.

Re: Twilio Super SIM

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Post by tibiapejagala »

walterbell wrote: post #63
flyGuyOnTheSly wrote: post #59

Forget IOT, I want this for my phone! It sounds almost too good to be true.

Google Fi has $10/GB global LTE for US residents. Multiple SIM cards sharing the same plan, works on non-Google devices too, including mobile hotspots. In the US, they use T-Mobile.

It's amusing that they went through all the pain of making a global SIM to make it available only for the US residents.

Re: Twilio Super SIM

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Post by c2h5oh »

sofaofthedamned wrote: post #71
emdowling wrote: post #21

Twilit has been on an absolute tear over the last 2 years. I wasn’t sure what they would do next to innovate, but their evolution to customer support products, authentication solutions and now this are inspired. What sets them apart is that, although they are a US company, they think globally. This product is for a global market, just like their app-based push authentication is (the huge market being Europe which has…

Their API has been unchanged for years, which shows me they did it right the first time.

So has Amazon Marketplace Web Services and it is by a huge margin the worst API I've seen my share of bad ones over the years.

Re: Twilio Super SIM

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Post by scurvy »

Until they actually ship and make it GA, I reserve the right to call this vapor ware like the rest of the Twilio announcements in the past year. When is VPN for programmable wireless going to ship? Never?
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