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Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

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Post by outworlder »

azinman2 wrote: post #65
funkiee wrote: post #16

Is lack of horizontal padding part of the KDE aesthetic?

When looking at all the screenshots, it’s clear that padding and alignment is neither professional (looks amateur), nor consistent. If you’re going to rip off Apple, at least do it to Apple quality! Otherwise it’s a cheap knock off. Before people grip that this is free software, would you be happy if KDE’s core components were poorly written? Free or not, we should take pride in our work and put the bar at high quali…

> When looking at all the screenshots, it’s clear that padding and alignment is neither professional (looks amateur), nor consistent.

You know, the thing about an open-source project is that you can contribute.

Since you think you are able to do it better yourself, why don't you fix it?

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

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Post by stefan_ »

treve wrote: post #2

Gnome and KDE seem so close in polish these days, it's hard to decide which one to run and I keep on going back and forward.

Uhm, which is to say, horrid? Because polish is the last thing that comes to mind with the abomination that KDE is.

The defaults are literally to spam you with notifications because a single fricking file copy finished. Hello! We have SSDs now! No one is fucking waiting for their file copy to finish! If you copy 100 files, no one wants 100 notifications!

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

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Post by andrewrothman »

Not sure why there's so much negativity in this thread. Thanks for spending the time to improve this. I love that KDE can show notifications from my phone via KDE Connect. It's not without its problems (the design could improve, and I'd love support for android quick respond actions if they're possible) but overall seems like great work.

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

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Post by eitland »

azinman2 wrote: post #65
funkiee wrote: post #16

Is lack of horizontal padding part of the KDE aesthetic?

When looking at all the screenshots, it’s clear that padding and alignment is neither professional (looks amateur), nor consistent. If you’re going to rip off Apple, at least do it to Apple quality! Otherwise it’s a cheap knock off. Before people grip that this is free software, would you be happy if KDE’s core components were poorly written? Free or not, we should take pride in our work and put the bar at high quali…

> If you’re going to rip off Apple, at least do it to Apple quality! Otherwise it’s a cheap knock off.

KDE isn't similar to Apple at all.

Source: have used both for years.

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

#86

Post by oblio »

orbifold wrote: post #21
sdegutis wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the UI and UX in general looks like it's from 2007. I know that it's volunteer work and I don't want to downplay the generosity of those who contributed to it, but I do wonder what's causing the delay in catching up to modern aesthetics. Is it a technical issue? Is there too much bureaucracy to overcome? Is there a shortage of UI and UX developers?

Basically creative people by and large never subscribed to the idea that they should give away their creativity for free. So all the talented designers are employed and happily working on paid projects, especially less established ones get approached with ridiculous low offers all the time. In short outside of the bizarre software/tech world very few subscribe to the idea that intellectual property should be shared a…

You don't really debug a painting. That's why Open Source is big and Open Art isn't (to my knowledge)

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

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Post by ru999gol »

wlesieutre wrote: post #76
inetknght wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is still a context-sensitive opinion . Programmatically, that assumes that that information is available (query a font rasterizer: where is the first pixel? consider also kerning and foreign languages; also query icon: where is the first non-background pixel? consider also theme information where window background might not show the icon well!). Programmatically, you've un-aligned everything: now the amount of w…

> As-is, it's functional and isn't ugly As you’re keen to point out regarding everyone else’s comments, that’s your opinion. Personally I think it’s functional and ugly . They could skip the drop shadow, the subtle transparency, the big icon on the right, the rounded corners, and just draw a white box. As long as they fixed the left padding it would look better than this. Lots of attention to detail on the wrong thin…

> Lots of attention to detail on the wrong things before they have the basics, IMO.

thanks you pretty much perfectly summarized KDE

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

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Post by tsss »

funkiee wrote: post #16

Is lack of horizontal padding part of the KDE aesthetic?

Thank god I'm not the only one who is annoyed by that. I remember 1 or 2 years ago when I first installed KDE I thought I messed up the installation because the padding/margins looked so jarring, I was convinced there was something wrong with the UI theme.

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

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Post by eitland »

wlesieutre wrote: post #76
inetknght wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is still a context-sensitive opinion . Programmatically, that assumes that that information is available (query a font rasterizer: where is the first pixel? consider also kerning and foreign languages; also query icon: where is the first non-background pixel? consider also theme information where window background might not show the icon well!). Programmatically, you've un-aligned everything: now the amount of w…

> As-is, it's functional and isn't ugly As you’re keen to point out regarding everyone else’s comments, that’s your opinion. Personally I think it’s functional and ugly . They could skip the drop shadow, the subtle transparency, the big icon on the right, the rounded corners, and just draw a white box. As long as they fixed the left padding it would look better than this. Lots of attention to detail on the wrong thin…

For some reason a lot of us folks find it not only usable but also pleasing.

I wont say it can't get better but I'd be hesitant to anyone who comes from the outside if they try to to make to many changes at once.

Again good UX exists but recently it seems it is all about

1. Copying Mac (see Unity) and Chrome

2. Removing options and configurability (see any modern app)

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