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Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

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Is lack of horizontal padding part of the KDE aesthetic?

I don't know how to explain. Those look exactly like the KDE notifications I see all the time, but they never looked compressed inside the window on my desktops. Instead, it always bothered me that they were too spacey.

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

#42
post #16

Is lack of horizontal padding part of the KDE aesthetic?

This is the first thing I noticed too. The text is too close to the leftmost border and feels very claustrophobic.

Claustrophobic? That's your opinion. It looks great to me.

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

#43

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What do you use that respects these principles?

Not trying to be snarky but MacOS. That being said, on Linux I think Elementary OS is at least trying to create a coherent visual design language. Maybe there are others?

I apologize, but I don't understand how anything you wrote in any way responds to what I asked, who I asked it to, or could be considered "helpful" in any way.

Please don't inject meaningless flag waving platform propaganda into genuine conversations.

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

#44

I can't be the only one that dislikes KDE's typography. I see that notification pane and aside from color, nothing gives it typographical hierarchy. It just looks odd to me.

All the UI and UX in general looks like it's from 2007. I know that it's volunteer work and I don't want to downplay the generosity of those who contributed to it, but I do wonder what's causing the delay in catching up to modern aesthetics. Is it a technical issue? Is there too much bureaucracy to overcome? Is there a shortage of UI and UX developers?

> All the UI and UX in general looks like it's from 2007.

Yeah. That probably KDE's most compelling feature.

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

#46
post #16

Is lack of horizontal padding part of the KDE aesthetic?

I also noticed that, came here to comment precisely the same thing.

I think the problem might also be exacerbated by the fact that the padding doesn't seem to be scaled based on DPI. (Unlike line height/icon size) So it looks acceptable on a low resolution display, but super close to the edges on a "Retina" display.

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

#47

Why KDE keeps rewriting every single component every few years? Is that because of improper design/planification or because of bad implementation?

Because it's modular.

If KDE was a monolitic project with insufficient tests, those details wouldn't improve. Instead, I'd bet developers would be fast at removing current functionality when unavoidable changes add hard to track bugs.

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

#48
post #16

Is lack of horizontal padding part of the KDE aesthetic?

Lack of horizontal padding? What padding do you want? There's clear whitespace between everything. I for one definitely like and want more compact information. I definitely do not like the trend for making information more sparse. Leave that for your blog; business runs on information.

Yeah, i've found GP's comment amusing because from my perspective KDE looks like it wastes too much space on padding.

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

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post #34
post #22

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You are not alone. Typography is questionable but the worst parts are padding and alignment. I have to apologize in advance because it's going to sound like a harsh comment and I know this is volunteer work. I really think that KDE is technically very good. The amount of basic design mistakes however is just unbearable as far as I am concerned. I mean, let's take a look at this improved notification panel. The closin…

Yeah, this is the real tragedy of KDE, and it's been like this forever: technically, it's fantastic, but the design and polish are really lacking. Instead, all the people good at visual design are working on Gnome, which has technical underpinnings that are crap by comparison.

GNOME does terrible waste of screen real estate so if those "people good at visual design" are responsible for that, i'd rather them stay in GNOME instead of infecting other desktop environments.

Re: Next Generation KDE Plasma Notifications

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post #16

Is lack of horizontal padding part of the KDE aesthetic?

Lack of horizontal padding? What padding do you want? There's clear whitespace between everything. I for one definitely like and want more compact information. I definitely do not like the trend for making information more sparse. Leave that for your blog; business runs on information.

Information density is not hampered by the presence of proper negative space, on the contrary, using the right amount of negative space actually allows for very information dense layouts to still be readable. A good example is a traditional paper phone book
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