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Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019

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Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019

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Post by braythwayt »

throwayEngineer wrote: post #47
erinnh wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I definitely would invest into Smart Home, but only if I can control it 100% from the server in my basement without the appliance having any internet access at all. All my IoT devices are in a wifi without any internet access.

This is why I can't buy Apple products. It's the opposite of interchangeable.

I buy only Apple devices.

It's true that they're mostly proprietary, and Apple runs its own services, and I hate iTunes these days.

But—and I realize not everyone feels the same way—but at this time they are literally the only b2c company that has any credibility around privacy.

They feel to me—and again, not everyone agrees—they feel to me like the only hardware company that thinks of their users as their customers, and not as cattle to be sold to crapware vendors and search engine behemoths.

Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019

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Post by scarface74 »

jerf wrote: post #68
scarface74 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or end up like people investing in “smart homes” in the 90s. Remember when built in intercom systems in the home were considered advanced? http://mentalfloss.com/article/510559/what-smart-home-techno...

I've occasionally pondered screwing around with various wifi-embedded things like the Arduino, but then I think about how long the light switches have been in my house already, and I find myself wondering, will even Wifi last long enough? Will today's Wifi still be going in 40 years? Dunno. Maybe. But for me to be interested in something it still has to be something that is going to pay back my fiddling in probably t…

I had my house wired with gigabit Ethernet when it was being built. I don’t know how long will that be enough.

Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019

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Post by samsolomon »

Curious, does anyone have a good manual thermostat that they like?

Part of the reason Nest has done so well is most programmable thermostats are horrible to use. I'm a product designer and I don't understand how the scheduling works.

Scheduling isn't something I really need for my studio. At night I turn the AC on, in the morning I turn it off. Don't really need to turn on the heat in the winter. I'd love is a quality manual thermostat—something like the Honeywell CT87K1004, but with a metal shell. https://www.honeywellstore.com/store/products/the-round-non-...

Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019

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Post by ProAm »

throwayEngineer wrote: post #47
erinnh wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I definitely would invest into Smart Home, but only if I can control it 100% from the server in my basement without the appliance having any internet access at all. All my IoT devices are in a wifi without any internet access.

This is why I can't buy Apple products. It's the opposite of interchangeable.

Apple doesnt sell products, they sell a lifestyle.

Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019

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Post by sara7262 »

Who is Satan and why there is evil Best video about this with proofs https://youtu.be/AWNM1-xYI5E

Funny monkey using phone in video Don't think just you can use phone See how he is searching and watching own monkey videos on phone http://bit.ly/2DS4p2R

See what happened when a lion was trying to kill man http://bit.ly/2H2zsKc ..

Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019

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Post by rch »

> Google's smart home strategy will now revolve around only the "Works with Google Assistant" program

This arguably makes more sense anyway, and I think it opens up some interesting possibilities that might not have been possible while Nest was a standalone entity.

Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019

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Post by wil421 »

samsolomon wrote: post #83

Curious, does anyone have a good manual thermostat that they like? Part of the reason Nest has done so well is most programmable thermostats are horrible to use. I'm a product designer and I don't understand how the scheduling works. Scheduling isn't something I really need for my studio. At night I turn the AC on, in the morning I turn it off. Don't really need to turn on the heat in the winter. I'd love is a qualit…

Get a cheap Ecobee lite or one of the many long established manufacturers like Honeywell.

I really like Nest but after the Google acquisition I’m not confident in their products being supported. For me I don’t need smart scheduling. My wife works from home and I do a couple days a week.

The Ecobee 4’s I have are great and come with a couple room sensors. Had them for a few weeks now. I’ve briefly looked into the API and it looks like I could integrate it with my Raspberry Pi.

Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019

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Post by knicholes »

throwaway55554 wrote: post #69
bpyne wrote: post #40

I can't think of a single compelling use-case for home automation systems. I'm trying to understand what other people see in it. I have to wonder if it's driven by the amount of interest a person has in "tinkering" with technology.

> I can't think of a single compelling use-case for home automation systems. I can't think of a single compelling use-case for home automation systems that communicate with someone else's servers. But, having lights and temp auto controlled would be nice. But getting a system up and running that only runs on MY server is a little more tinkery than I have time for what with all the LeetCode I have to do to switch jobs…

How about ordering supplies for you when you run low?

Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019

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Post by nine_k »

zelly wrote: post #46

We are all used to SaaS randomly getting obsoleted, but when you buy a physical device you kind of expect to own it forever. But no, cloud and IoT means even your physical stuff are SaaS products. Just stop buying the trash.

Can't help but quote: «“the "Internet of Things" won't work until the "Local Area Network of Things" works», seen here on HN [1].

There's significantly less money in it, though, and more hassle. It's not going to become popular enough until people get burned enough with vendors going out of business, or just stopping support, and making their convenient $199 gadgets obsolete.

In a sense, a large company like Nest pulling his off is a good thing: it sends the signal.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15721911#15726960

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