Thanks Google, I'm moving away from your services and software development stacks (bye Angular.)
The only way Google will change their ways is by losing eyeballs, one set at a time.
Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019
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#42You can't make this up. Google pushing for privacy and control in one breath, and the very next are merging Nest personal accounts and data into their massive architecture.
Really walking the walk google, great work! /s
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#43I got a Nest as a housewarming gift and was excited to set it up and play with it. I set it up in SmartThings, HomeBridge, IFTTT, and Alexa. That was about 2 weeks ago, now I'm considering returning it and going to with some zigbee/z-wave alternative.
This is 100% why I refuse to buy WiFi "Smart" devices. They are always a step away from being shutdown and no longer supported. Tuya devices are sometimes acceptable but normally only if someone has already cracked how to talk to them. My new Eufy RoboVac is in that category for me. I'm going to have to write the majority of the HomeBridge support for it but I know it's possible (and I LOVE Anker products).
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I definitely would invest into Smart Home, but only if I can control it 100% from the server in my basement without the appliance having any internet access at all. All my IoT devices are in a wifi without any internet access.
Not really an 'internet' of things then is it? More like 'WLoT' (Wireless LAN of things)
Sure it is, you can connect to your server from internet and relay any commands if you like to.
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#45This is why I would never invest too much into Smart Home. While my phone may be expected to last for a few years only, I don't want my house deprecated because of a takeover/bankruptcy of a company.
I definitely would invest into Smart Home, but only if I can control it 100% from the server in my basement without the appliance having any internet access at all. All my IoT devices are in a wifi without any internet access.
I don't touch 90% of WiFi smart devices unless they are Tuya controlled and even then I'm iffy. I vastly prefer z-wave/zigbee because if SmartThings goes belly up I can switch to Wink or any other compatible hub fairly easily. And while my Alexa devices are probably where I am "weakest" I have a lot of stuff running through HomeBridge and if I needed to I could move to HomeAssistant if I needed/wanted to.
Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019
#46We are all used to SaaS randomly getting obsoleted, but when you buy a physical device you kind of expect to own it forever. But no, cloud and IoT means even your physical stuff are SaaS products. Just stop buying the trash.
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#47This is why I would never invest too much into Smart Home. While my phone may be expected to last for a few years only, I don't want my house deprecated because of a takeover/bankruptcy of a company.
I definitely would invest into Smart Home, but only if I can control it 100% from the server in my basement without the appliance having any internet access at all. All my IoT devices are in a wifi without any internet access.
This is why I can't buy Apple products.
It's the opposite of interchangeable.
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#48This is why we invested in Apple Home, since that is the least likely to go away completely off all the options. Any Google service other than Gmail and Google Maps may come and go so while they offer amazing features at the cost of invading your privacy, there is no guarantee they will there in the long term.
Apple has cancelled plenty of things, it's just much better at erasing history and pretending those things never existed than the other companies.
Apple Marketing is best in class for hijacking human minds.
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#49This is why I would never invest too much into Smart Home. While my phone may be expected to last for a few years only, I don't want my house deprecated because of a takeover/bankruptcy of a company.
My "smart home" is just installing IR blasters to control all my existing IR-controlled ceiling lamps and air conditioner units. In the worst case, I can always revert to using the IR remote controls (or wall switches).
They're firewalled to my LAN and integrated into iOS using Homebridge running on my Synology NAS.
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#50I can't think of a single compelling use-case for home automation systems. I'm trying to understand what other people see in it. I have to wonder if it's driven by the amount of interest a person has in "tinkering" with technology.
Home automation is a great source of overly ambitious capstone ideas for ECE students!