This is why we invested in Apple Home, since that is the least likely to go away completely off all the options. Any Google service other than Gmail and Google Maps may come and go so while they offer amazing features at the cost of invading your privacy, there is no guarantee they will there in the long term.
Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019
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Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019
#12This is why I would never invest too much into Smart Home. While my phone may be expected to last for a few years only, I don't want my house deprecated because of a takeover/bankruptcy of a company.
I definitely would invest into Smart Home, but only if I can control it 100% from the server in my basement without the appliance having any internet access at all. All my IoT devices are in a wifi without any internet access.
Not really an 'internet' of things then is it?
More like 'WLoT' (Wireless LAN of things)
Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019
#13This is why we invested in Apple Home, since that is the least likely to go away completely off all the options. Any Google service other than Gmail and Google Maps may come and go so while they offer amazing features at the cost of invading your privacy, there is no guarantee they will there in the long term.
>> Any Google service other than Gmail and Google Maps may come and go
I felt Gmail was at _significant_ risk when Inbox was announced; result was unexpected.
Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019
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I definitely would invest into Smart Home, but only if I can control it 100% from the server in my basement without the appliance having any internet access at all. All my IoT devices are in a wifi without any internet access.
Not really an 'internet' of things then is it? More like 'WLoT' (Wireless LAN of things)
Well, IoT never was a customer term, it was an industry term. And just because something keeps working without the internet doesn't mean it cannot benefit from connectivity.
Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019
#15Has anyone tried Home Assistant to get around things like this? Or are you locked in proprietary technology anyways?
Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019
#16This is why we invested in Apple Home, since that is the least likely to go away completely off all the options. Any Google service other than Gmail and Google Maps may come and go so while they offer amazing features at the cost of invading your privacy, there is no guarantee they will there in the long term.
Yeah, Apple has never cancelled a product.
Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019
#17This is why I would never invest too much into Smart Home. While my phone may be expected to last for a few years only, I don't want my house deprecated because of a takeover/bankruptcy of a company.
I definitely would invest into Smart Home, but only if I can control it 100% from the server in my basement without the appliance having any internet access at all. All my IoT devices are in a wifi without any internet access.
Can you offer up a list of items that you were able to configure like this; or a reference point I could use to get started?
Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019
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I definitely would invest into Smart Home, but only if I can control it 100% from the server in my basement without the appliance having any internet access at all. All my IoT devices are in a wifi without any internet access.
Not really an 'internet' of things then is it? More like 'WLoT' (Wireless LAN of things)
Most things in your home don't need to know that much about things outside your home, or could have a well-defined standard API for getting that information from any source. If you could write wrapper scripts for obtaining weather information or traffic information, for instance, then you could have a self-contained system that required no monthly fees unless you opted to pay for high quality information, etc. but still gained all of the benefits of outside information, is high security, and would probably end up working even better. You could have default information endpoints for ease of setup, but why not make it all customizable? A good company with customer needs in view would be fully capable of making such a system.
Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019
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I definitely would invest into Smart Home, but only if I can control it 100% from the server in my basement without the appliance having any internet access at all. All my IoT devices are in a wifi without any internet access.
Not really an 'internet' of things then is it? More like 'WLoT' (Wireless LAN of things)
Honestly? That would be awesome. I already have security cameras set up like that (although not wireless) - just home devices that do things for me and report back to a central server in my home. That server can connect to the internet (when I want it to), grab new firmware for the cameras, then disconnect and send out the firmware.
That's pretty much all I want from home automation as well. I see the value in being able to say "Alexa, turn down the lights" and having AWS do the voice recognition - but given that I can't trust services to stay more than a few years, I'm not going to invest in it.
Re: Nest, the company, died at Google I/O 2019
#20This is why I would never invest too much into Smart Home. While my phone may be expected to last for a few years only, I don't want my house deprecated because of a takeover/bankruptcy of a company.
I definitely would invest into Smart Home, but only if I can control it 100% from the server in my basement without the appliance having any internet access at all. All my IoT devices are in a wifi without any internet access.
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