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Re: Blue Moon

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post #36

Have I missed a lot of news recently, or is this some strange usage of the present tense that I wasn't previously aware of?

Having come from nuclear engineering, I'd say it's pretty typical for people speaking of large conceptual engineering designs. Paper reactors, paper spaceships, etc. are often spoken of in present tense. The design exists now and it has a name - that's the way I interpret it.

Re: Blue Moon

#42
Blue origin can't build a moon rocket by 2024, so maybe they can settle for the lander. Here's the vision I bet they're aiming for: a Spacex rocket, a United Launch Alliance capsule, a Blue Origin lander, and a round of pork barrel in every Congressional district.

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#43
post #7

If this is a lander what will they use to deliver the lander to lunar orbit? I'll admit I don't follow this sort of news very closely, but it seems quite exciting.

Presumably their New Glenn rocket

They've got New Armstrong pencilled in after New Glenn for taking people to the Moon.

I suppose after that would be New Sagan

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#44

Blue origin can't build a moon rocket by 2024, so maybe they can settle for the lander. Here's the vision I bet they're aiming for: a Spacex rocket, a United Launch Alliance capsule, a Blue Origin lander, and a round of pork barrel in every Congressional district.

I'm seeing a lot of exponential technology. If Jeff B. takes more risk and focus, it could be possible. We'll see.

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#46

I'm confused. Does this actually exist yet? The linked page says things like "Blue Moon is a flexible lander", and "Blue Moon can land multiple metric tons of payload on the lunar surface". Is there any actual hardware? Or is it entirely CAD drawings and renderings? They seem to be implying that the hardware currently exists and is ready to go (presumably for the Pence/Trump 2024 mandate), but the videos and pictures…

No it does not exist yet. This is a page devoted to pulling both private and public funding and something to wave in front of Congresscritters' eyes.

Pretty much. President Trump wants to put a man on the moon before he's out of office (assuming he gets re-elected and makes it to 2024). Mike Pence obsequiously tells NASA to make it so. Amazon wants more sweet federal contracting money, and prepares to bid for that contract.

I wish Bezos, Allen, Musk, etc. weren't burning their piles of cash to see who could be first to shoot other people at the moon, but such is the world we live in.

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#47
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon's stated goal re: astronauts and training is that the technology should be sufficiently simplified to let anyone go up with minimal training. The idea of a heavily-trained astronaut is old, and the new thinking is that the people going to space should be able to spend their time up their doing whatever it is they are good at - even if just vacationing - rather than learning how to fly spacecraft etc. I know this…

I imagine that's the end goal but I have a hard time believing we will be there in just a few years. Time will tell.

A big part of astronaut training is knowing how to fly the craft and knowing what to do if something breaks. If the machine is automatically controlled and reliable, you don't need as much training. (Maybe they'll send a trained person or two along with the tourists?)

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#48
Anybody willing to bet he will announce building an 'Amazon Sphere' like structure in the moon? Feel like that project was an experiment for later use on his other endeavors but using Amazon's deep pockets to pay for it.

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#49
Why does everything BO build have to be so fugly? Don't they care, are they not good enough that they can make it pretty and achieve their technical goals at the same time or are there hard constraints that dictate the ugliness?

Re: Blue Moon

#50
post #2

I was waiting for this announcement. It is unclear to me how "real" this is; Bezo's claims they can meet the timeline of people on the moon in 2024. Since they aren't flying a heavy booster like the Delta IV heavy or the Falcon Heavy yet, and those platforms took about 10 years to go from concept to first flight. Bezos is suggesting he can do that in 5 years. Perhaps he's considering using the Delta for FHeavy as the…

Unlike Elon Musk, Bezos has a tendency to set more accurate timelines.

This is not to say that Space X’s achievements are not incredible. They are. It is just that Elon Musk projection timelines are pretty much always bunk, while Jeff Bezos seems to be better at projecting achievement timelines.

Again, what Space X and Blue Origin have achieved are incredible, and yes Space X has an entirely different set of technology that is capable of sending huge payloads to deep space...

I’m just saying Musk’s timelines are completely unreliable. Bezos’ aren’t (historically).

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