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Re: Blue Moon

#31
post #5

Welp, then I am going to say it: it looks underwhelming, both in capability and looks. 6.5t of soft-landed payload to surface of moon and 2.5kW of power via fuel cells if Twitter can be trusted. A grand vision of O'Neill cylinders and whatever in space is nice but how? How? Less gradatim and more ferociter would be nice.

At least someone is trying (and given the track record, will probably achieve it, Gradatim Ferociter indeed)

Re: Blue Moon

#33
So the question is going to be if you can lift this with a Falcon Heavy, given that New Glenn isn't even close to ready, and while the pace that Blue origin moves at is awesome compared to traditional space vendors, it's way behind where it needs to be for this, and where SpaceX is today.

Re: Blue Moon

#34
post #15

Astronauts train for years before going to space. Do these space tourism companies pretend that anyone with enough cash can do it?

They get a ton of training so they can operate all systems. Tourists will have highly trained pilots with them and the only thing they will have to do is to not touch anything and do what they are told to do when something goes wrong.

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#35
post #28
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's Amazon's way of working. Starting from PR/FAQ and working backwards.

Err well publishing the PR while it's still vaporware is not the Amazon way.

I don't mean it as shortcoming for Amazon. Their way of working have brought them quite far.

As for proving my point: https://www.quora.com/What-is-Amazons-approach-to-product-de...

Re: Blue Moon

#36
Have I missed a lot of news recently, or is this some strange usage of the present tense that I wasn't previously aware of?

Re: Blue Moon

#38
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon's stated goal re: astronauts and training is that the technology should be sufficiently simplified to let anyone go up with minimal training. The idea of a heavily-trained astronaut is old, and the new thinking is that the people going to space should be able to spend their time up their doing whatever it is they are good at - even if just vacationing - rather than learning how to fly spacecraft etc. I know this…

I imagine that's the end goal but I have a hard time believing we will be there in just a few years. Time will tell.

Nobody's proposing "just a few years". Both Musk and Bezos have grand visions that require difficult, complex technical and financial problems to be solved.

First up is lowering the cost of escape velocity such that "casual" flights are financially feasible. This includes reusable components, a very low failure rate, and an ecosystem of employees, engineers, and culture that supports it.

If M/B achieves their stated goals in this domain, then the next steps can be practically executed.

Re: Blue Moon

#39
post #26

I'm all for anything that gets us back to the Moon, but this clearly feels underwhelming versus Starship. It'd also be good if they got to orbit prior to marketing these grand plans. Gradatim Ferociter indeed.

I’m glad to see a different approach. SpaceX has the “outrageously audacious” space well covered. It’s good to have a competitor working on something more incremental in case it turns out that the giant leap isn’t viable.

Blue Origin is somewhat like the Waymo of space tech. They'll continue plodding methodically, indefinitely. And you can bet their safety/reliability record will be nigh near perfect.

Yes, Waymo is the market leader in self-driving technology (unlike Blue Origin). And there's currently no analogue to SpaceX in the self-driving car market. The incredible, complementary leadership duo that Musk and Shotwell present is unparalleled in both markets.

Re: Blue Moon

#40
post #15

Astronauts train for years before going to space. Do these space tourism companies pretend that anyone with enough cash can do it?

> Do these space tourism companies pretend that anyone with enough cash can do it?

No pretend required.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Tito

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_British

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