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What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right

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Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right

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Post by jki275 »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #308
thrower123 wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think I'd make it in the current age. We routinely drove snowmobiles to school in the winter, parked across the street in an empty lot during hunting season so that our bird guns were locked up technically off of school property, and carried leathermans and swiss army knives every day as a matter of course. Kids were frigging dipping Grizzly into soda bottles in the back of the class room most days. People wo…

> dipping Grizzly into soda bottles What does this mean?

chewing tobacco.

Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right

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Post by skookumchuck »

CydeWeys wrote: post #270
klodolph wrote: post #53

What resonated with me is how impossible it is, as a kid, to make sense of being in the school system. The interaction with an administrator was school discipline gone awry... but it could have easily been something else. (Discipline is the most likely, there are tons of misguided zero-tolerance policies.) I'm lucky that my parents were advocates and organizers and that they knew people in the school administration.…

Wow, we had quite similar upbringings. My dad was the co-president of the county's Gifted & Talented Association, and like you I was always in the best classes and magnet programs (even if that required busing), and when I had bad teachers, my dad got me swapped into the best teacher's class within a week. I even had a similar issue with a teacher, but fortunately that was later in high school and I was able to handl…

> And yeah, having someone in your corner who knows how to navigate the school system and get the best for you is super important.

This is very typical of the bureaucracies that run socialism. It becomes a system of bartering favors, connections, and influence. (Instead of money.)

Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right

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Post by skookumchuck »

yourbandsucks wrote: post #285
klodolph wrote: post #53

What resonated with me is how impossible it is, as a kid, to make sense of being in the school system. The interaction with an administrator was school discipline gone awry... but it could have easily been something else. (Discipline is the most likely, there are tons of misguided zero-tolerance policies.) I'm lucky that my parents were advocates and organizers and that they knew people in the school administration.…

Hey, I don't want to be a dick here, but your heroic story is that your parents had the juice to get you into college math classes as a high schooler? How many kids don't have that going for them? Maybe the best lesson for them is learning how to deal with the machine. Not that it's right. But it's what they'll need to do.

I took math classes at the local community college while in high school. All it took was signing up for them. No juice required.

Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right

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Post by eropple »

ytNumbers wrote: post #307
eropple wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I most certainly do. Ukip's belief system is pretty fundamentally palingenetic ultranationalism at its core. (As is "Make America Great Again [By Making Sure White People Win]".) EDIT: but, gosh, I sure can't help but notice the first part of the sentence you cherry-picked: "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism" - can you tell me why you tried to play dirty pool a…

I suppose UKIP not wanting to submit to their EU bureaucrat overlords makes them radical, right-wing, authoritarian, ultranationalists. Can't someone just finally be sick and tired of all the consequences of EU globalism without being labeled a racist? Sigh... I guess someone has to live for decades in one of the areas worst affected by globalism in order to grasp what has been squandered. For most people, they're no…

I suppose such people could exist. But they're plainly not the main. I know this because I listen to their spokespeople. They are unsubtle.

And you didn't answer why you chopped the quote. I wonder why.

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Post by mantap »

asark wrote: post #86
baby wrote: post #73

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Heck. I'm still making nightmares about being back to school.

Mid 30s, same, and my k-12 experience wasn't even bad . I wasn't really bullied. I was popular enough, and moved between a few different friend groups, some of them semi-cool (though one of the nerdier groups was my "home"). School's just that traumatic, I guess. I worry about that for my kids. Unlike an adult, if you're in an environment that's making your life hell (and normal school life is friggin' intolerable, f…

Children live in a more violent environment than adults do. As an adult I have never been physically assaulted, yet in school I was assaulted all the time.

If an adult were to be assaulted by a random stranger, there's a good chance the "bully" would get beaten up (or in America, shot). Any adult stupid enough to randomly assault other adults is likely to spend a long time as a ward of the state, until they learn not to do that anymore.

We should teach our children that they have a right to defend themselves and a duty to defend other kids who are being bullied at school.

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Post by CriticalCathed »

I'm always skeptical of the veracity of these articles. This one doesn't pass the sniff test. It has a narrative arc that doesn't recall reality. Seems contrived.

The thing that rang truest was the school interaction. That's where my trouble with authority started -- overzealous, bored, administrators.

Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right

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Post by DuskStar »

prevedmedved wrote: post #300
ltrls23 wrote: post #297

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Oh that's stupid! We (non racist people) know that black people are black and white people are white (biological differences), we just don't think it's in any way a reason to treat them differently. (same thing with men and women ;)

That's a bald-faced lie. If it were true, you'd be against affirmative action and quotas. Which you're not.

Being for or against affirmative action and quotas is kind of orthogonal to being a racist, though? There are certainly racists who support affirmative action, and obviously ones who don't. (for instance, people who think that there is a difference in mean IQ between races, but thinks that affirmative action to compensate would increase societal stability) Similarly, there are people who believe all racial differences are skin deep / stop at the neck who support affirmative action and ones who do not. (For instance, people who think that affirmative action is counterproductive and will lead to racism)

There might be a correlation there, but let's not pretend that only two corners of that matrix are populated.

Re: What happened after my 13-year-old son joined the alt-right

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Post by dllthomas »

skookumchuck wrote: post #323
yourbandsucks wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, I don't want to be a dick here, but your heroic story is that your parents had the juice to get you into college math classes as a high schooler? How many kids don't have that going for them? Maybe the best lesson for them is learning how to deal with the machine. Not that it's right. But it's what they'll need to do.

I took math classes at the local community college while in high school. All it took was signing up for them. No juice required.

Likewise.
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