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So now all Nest accounts have to go through Google. Can’t wait for the first time some Android developer gets their Google account locked and suddenly can’t change the temperature on their HVAC unit.
For those who see this as Google turning off an unused service: no, just no. This is Google cutting off a massive interop ecosystem to try to parlay the success of Nest into higher adoption of Google Home. That’s vastly different than shutting down G+, Wave, Orkut, Reader, etc. It would be as if they announced tomorrow that the only way to read GMail is in Chrome browser or on an Android phone.
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I have Wemo smart plugs that I have plugged in all sorts of stuff like Heater, Lamps, and TV, etc connected to my Google Home and Home Mini. And I'd advise anyone to think twice before buying smart plugs or smart devices. There are so many bugs creating so many complications that I feel they are not worth using. You'd need to reconnect them with WEMO app time and again, restart these frequently if they just stop work…
> And I'd advise anyone to think twice before buying smart plugs or smart devices. Not all smart devices are created alike. Research your purchases. So far the one I’ve been most happy with is IKEA Trådfri. It costs roughly half of the comparable Phillips hue offering, but still delivers on any aspect I care about. Works 100% locally, uses standard Zigbee (non-WiFi) networking. No cloud required. Supports HomeKit, Al…
Baby starts moving in bedroom, light bulb flashes in kitchen.
Sonos stopped supporting remote control, no problem, map IKEA remote controller to start/stop Sonos playback.
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_devices.htm...
https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/lighting/smart-lighting/
This seems to include all of us using them in open-source "hobbyist" environments, like Home Assistant and Node-Red. I'm quite frustrated by this; I'll never buy another Nest product again, and I now regret my purchase of the Nest Thermostat. All the rest of my IoT stuff is either open-source hardware/software, or at the least local-only with known protocol interfaces. This was the one exception I made for IoT "cloud…
One more reason to go for a completely-in-my-lan solution.
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You are assuming they will retain imap functionality. Ask the xmpp/jabber folks about hangouts.
Yeah I fully expect imap to disappear in the next few years. I've started migrating to domains I own for this reason. I can see them keeping it around for enterprise for a bit longer, though.
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The sad thing is it's not rocket science. It's just terrible, barely working, shoehorned in buggy drivers, "shipped as soon as it can appear functional" code. You could take a microcontroller, write something simple, and have something that worked to a few 9s. Instead, IoT vendors spend their time optimizing their data collection and monetization platforms. "You had one job..." would be a good epitaph for the entire…
s/a few nines/more nines than the cloud/
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I have Wemo smart plugs that I have plugged in all sorts of stuff like Heater, Lamps, and TV, etc connected to my Google Home and Home Mini. And I'd advise anyone to think twice before buying smart plugs or smart devices. There are so many bugs creating so many complications that I feel they are not worth using. You'd need to reconnect them with WEMO app time and again, restart these frequently if they just stop work…
> And I'd advise anyone to think twice before buying smart plugs or smart devices. Not all smart devices are created alike. Research your purchases. So far the one I’ve been most happy with is IKEA Trådfri. It costs roughly half of the comparable Phillips hue offering, but still delivers on any aspect I care about. Works 100% locally, uses standard Zigbee (non-WiFi) networking. No cloud required. Supports HomeKit, Al…
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Huh didn’t realize YouTube annotations was killed off. Gotta say, most annoying thing to me was discontinuing support for the Nexus 6p after only 2 years. Made me switch to iPhone for ever.
YouTube annotations unfortunately were misused for spamming purposes. It is one of the few cases where you can say good riddance.
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I've been considering pasting this: https://killedbygoogle.com/ every time the argument comes up. Maybe Google proponents will make one for other companies notorious for killing services, but at least for now, the Google Graveyard grows.
I don't quite get what people expect... do they think that once google creates something, they are obligated to continue it indefinitely? That seems like an unreasonable expectation.
Consider it an incentive to avoid dependencies on external services.
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No company is, and expecting any company to continue spending money on maintaining a service even if they've decided it isn't profitable is pollyannaish. To that end, I'm not sure I see the value in framing this specifically as a Google thing. Google is maybe the most visible because of how many products it has, and how popular many of them are. But really, this sort of thing is a problem that's inherent to any IoT d…
I expect a company to continue a service for the foreseeable future (lets say the normal duration of the warranty on the product) if it is necessary to use a product i just bought. Otherwise I expect a refund or it feels very much like fraud to me. Legislators should get involved here sooner then later.