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Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by AJ007 »

pugworthy wrote: post #113
sdinsn wrote: post #90

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Because having an open API fosters a community of applications that is free marketing and free development for your product. Nest products are expensive, those 1800 users may equate to a few hundred thousand in revenue for Google, who may instead buy a competitor for their next purchase.

I get that, and I think it's sad they cut it for that reason, but can we at least express our thoughts in that line? "I will never buy Nest AGAIN!" stuff is like what I'd expect on Reddit or Facebook. Can't we at least post about what the value is that's being lost?

Most of the value that is being lost is for Google, at least if they have any expectation of dependence on developer trust in the future.

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Post by dankohn1 »

ImprovedSilence wrote: post #129
kd0amg wrote: post #95

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First they came for Google Wave, and I did not speak out—Because I never really understood what Wave was to begin with. Then they came for Google+, and I did not speak out—Because almost all the people I want life updates from are on Facebook. Then they came for Google Reader, and I did not speak out—Because I never actually heard of Reader until years after it was eliminated. Maybe Reader was actually first? Then th…

Damn I miss Reader.

I really recommend checking out Inoreader. It's a nearly perfect Google Reader clone, but with more powerful features like multiple filters per feed and subscribing to Twitter feeds.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by LilBytes »

mirimir wrote: post #162
hyeonwho4 wrote: post #111

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It feels like Google search is already curated. At home I cannot find academic articles which appeared in the search at work, because my girlfriend trained the home's recommendation engine on searches for cute cat pictures and domestic things. In DuckDuckGo, at least I know I will be able to find the same results for the same search terms no matter where I am.

Use a VPN in a private VM.

Use a VPN in a private VM so you can use Google and get decent search results?

Is your response satire?

I want to believe it is.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by AJ007 »

yellow_postit wrote: post #147
gboudrias wrote: post #74

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Really curious how shutting down every service works as a business model.

These services aren't Google's business model of Ads.

It is almost like their products are just PR puff pieces.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by village-idiot »

cortesoft wrote: post #136
DivisionSol wrote: post #57

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I've been considering pasting this: https://killedbygoogle.com/ every time the argument comes up. Maybe Google proponents will make one for other companies notorious for killing services, but at least for now, the Google Graveyard grows.

I don't quite get what people expect... do they think that once google creates something, they are obligated to continue it indefinitely? That seems like an unreasonable expectation.

Google kills off products and services with wanton caprice and a complete disconnect from the needs of their users. While all services end, Google is liable to pull the rug out from under you at any moment. This is even more egregious if they kill off anything that physical devices use, as they basically just reaches out and broke a product you bought in good faith.

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Post by xyzzy_plugh »

freen wrote: post #185
michaelmrose wrote: post #168

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Ideally your Gmail ought to be through a domain and services that add value via imap. Then its impossible for the functionality to evaporate.

You are assuming they will retain imap functionality. Ask the xmpp/jabber folks about hangouts.

Yeah I fully expect imap to disappear in the next few years. I've started migrating to domains I own for this reason.

I can see them keeping it around for enterprise for a bit longer, though.

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Post by ajmurmann »

Just yesterday I started to look into building a tiny app that checks if the temperature in my two rooms that have a Nest is too hot or cold in one and OK in the other and just turn the fan on instead of heat/AC. And here we go...I guess I am not making that dumb "smart thermostat" ant smarter.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by Semaphor »

ImprovedSilence wrote: post #195
sanderjd wrote: post #172

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Why? There are tons of perfectly good rss feed readers. I've never understood this one. I was a heavy Reader user, seamlessly switched to Feedly like the day after it was spun down, and never thought about it again.

Do you mostly consume text, or images/rich media? Something about Reader just worked for me. It was partly some blogs I followed and wanted to keep up with reading, but the meat of it for me was just scrolling endless pictures from various design blogs, that i'd sometimes star or label. Or some webcomic that I'd share with my handful of friends that were on there. Or I'd catch up whatever BMX or ski edits that came o…

Isn't Feedly exactly for people like you? I never liked it because I mainly want text, but it always struck me as a reader for people who want pictures.
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