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From the story here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19834802 > They claimed it housed Hamas cyber operatives, which had been engaging in a cyberattack against Israel's "cyberspace." > "We were ahead of them all the time," said Brigadier General D., the head of the IDF's cyber defense division. "The moment they tried to do something, they failed." > Israeli officials did not disclose any details about the Hamas…
I’m generally pro Israel. But quite happy to criticise them when and where warranted on specific issues/incidents. In this case, it certainly sounds like a very serious and incongruent disconnect between the public affairs officer for Cyber and the actual kinetic response. The Israelis have always been pretty quick to kill or capture not only leadership, but technical talent. In this case, if I had to guess, there wa…
It rather seemed you came up with a rationalization for the deed just because it was done. Presented with facts, you don't skip a beat either.
> In this case, if I had to guess
That's the thing, you don't have to. So why do you? And what's with the weasel words like "kinetic action"? If someone mistook someone you loved for a threat and killed them, and someone else just said "oh yeah, they've always been quick to capture or kill people", and "this may be signalling that going forward people mistaken for threat are considered a valid target for physical removal", would you like that?
> Every powerful state relies on specialists whose task is to show that what the strong do is noble and just and, if the weak suffer, it is their fault. In the West, these specialists are called "intellectuals" and, with marginal exceptions, they fulfill their task with skill and self-righteousness, however outlandish the claims, in this practice that traces back to the origins of recorded history.
-- Noam Chomsky
When I said "start there", I meant start with the deed. Start with the principles, and if you would like them to be applied to you and people you love. There are things we cannot bless. We can support them, but that just degrades us, it doesn't enoble these things one bit.
> People who call themselves supporters of Israel are actually supporters of its moral degeneration and ultimate destruction.
-- Noam Chomsky
I rather consider Yeshayahu Leibowitz "pro Israel" -- in a sense of supporting the heart, body and soul, not just the body come what may -- just like I would have considered Sophie School "pro Germany", not "anti Germany". Principles, and applying them equally, and not having double standards, those are real, being pro this or that is just rhetoric.