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JMAP: A modern, open email protocol

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Re: JMAP: A modern, open email protocol

#72
Looking at the request it contains properties like collapseThreads and sort, moving this sort of functionality server side is a regression. This is an API for hosted services, it's disingenuous to compare it to imap.

Re: JMAP: A modern, open email protocol

#73
post #47
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

JMAP is still young; just wait until a plethora of non-interoperable optional extensions get added.

However bad this is, it's better than a plethora of non-interoperable optional IMAP extensions! https://developers.google.com/gmail/imap/imap-extensions

Yeah, at least all the current extensions of IMAP will be covered.

Re: JMAP: A modern, open email protocol

#74

One of the things I particularly recall reading is FastMail devs explaining that the standardization process led to changes and improvements. (Even their about page says that "JMAP was built by the community, and continues to improve via the IETF standardization process.") Really thrilled the FastMail team is working on this, and doing it in the way that changes to mail should be handled: Going through proper Interne…

Really thrilled the FastMail team is working on this Sorry to be 'that guy'. I like Fastmail but maybe they could fix some of the irritating bugs we keep asking for resolutions on before embarking on fun protocol invention missions. Two killers: (1) When forwarding an email there is no link between the forwarded email and the original thread (TOTAL TIME WASTER), when reported they "don't consider it a bug [because of…

Did you consider that they might only be wasting your time? I haven’t ever felt any frustration at any of the things you named.

Re: JMAP: A modern, open email protocol

#75

One of the things I particularly recall reading is FastMail devs explaining that the standardization process led to changes and improvements. (Even their about page says that "JMAP was built by the community, and continues to improve via the IETF standardization process.") Really thrilled the FastMail team is working on this, and doing it in the way that changes to mail should be handled: Going through proper Interne…

Really thrilled the FastMail team is working on this Sorry to be 'that guy'. I like Fastmail but maybe they could fix some of the irritating bugs we keep asking for resolutions on before embarking on fun protocol invention missions. Two killers: (1) When forwarding an email there is no link between the forwarded email and the original thread (TOTAL TIME WASTER), when reported they "don't consider it a bug [because of…

Re #2, if you move things first the filter will be prefilled with how you just searched. This works for me, but probably only works for simple things.

Re: JMAP: A modern, open email protocol

#76
post #66

Unpopular prediction: Gmail will never implement JMAP, so it's already dead in the water.

Why wouldn't Google implement JMAP? Interestingly enough JMAP adds support for Gmail-specific behaviors like labels, which IMAP lacks. This would allow other apps and services to better integrate with Gmail's quirky behavior, improving the experience for Gmail users.

Re: JMAP: A modern, open email protocol

#77

One of the things I particularly recall reading is FastMail devs explaining that the standardization process led to changes and improvements. (Even their about page says that "JMAP was built by the community, and continues to improve via the IETF standardization process.") Really thrilled the FastMail team is working on this, and doing it in the way that changes to mail should be handled: Going through proper Interne…

Really thrilled the FastMail team is working on this Sorry to be 'that guy'. I like Fastmail but maybe they could fix some of the irritating bugs we keep asking for resolutions on before embarking on fun protocol invention missions. Two killers: (1) When forwarding an email there is no link between the forwarded email and the original thread (TOTAL TIME WASTER), when reported they "don't consider it a bug [because of…

I would be very surprised if the people working on creating and implementing the new protocol have anything to do with the team that would fix the bugs you mention.

Re: JMAP: A modern, open email protocol

#78
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really thrilled the FastMail team is working on this Sorry to be 'that guy'. I like Fastmail but maybe they could fix some of the irritating bugs we keep asking for resolutions on before embarking on fun protocol invention missions. Two killers: (1) When forwarding an email there is no link between the forwarded email and the original thread (TOTAL TIME WASTER), when reported they "don't consider it a bug [because of…

Did you consider that they might only be wasting your time? I haven’t ever felt any frustration at any of the things you named.

Both are standard features on GMail, which beats your sample size of 1.

Re: JMAP: A modern, open email protocol

#79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really thrilled the FastMail team is working on this Sorry to be 'that guy'. I like Fastmail but maybe they could fix some of the irritating bugs we keep asking for resolutions on before embarking on fun protocol invention missions. Two killers: (1) When forwarding an email there is no link between the forwarded email and the original thread (TOTAL TIME WASTER), when reported they "don't consider it a bug [because of…

I would be very surprised if the people working on creating and implementing the new protocol have anything to do with the team that would fix the bugs you mention.

If they don't personally, then as a matter of fact they manage them.
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