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'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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>Why are they calling you and not you calling them to make appointments? Um.... they have to let you know that you need an appointment. "Your lab tests came back and we'd like to make a follow-up appointment." My mortgage broker didn't mind emails.

> Your lab tests came back and we'd like to make a follow-up appointment." So you're expecting a call from them in this case?

That's typically how it works.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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I'm from europe (the Netherlands). Everytime I see these american robocall threads it blows my mind. What about your system is so bad that allows this to go on? It's not a problem here at all.

It's been a problem for me in Sweden the last couple of years. I've had the same company phone number since 2011 but the last 2 years I've seen strange calls from international numbers. They seem spoofed because you can see them increment the numbers and try again. Also they come from various countries both in and out of europe. They always ring 2-3 times then hang up. I've blocked dozens of them by now, they just co…

In UK we get calls like these.

The calling-from numbers usually don't terminate, ie they're "number not recognised" or similar errors. This seems like something the phone company could fix if they cared to, or indeed the industry watchdogs could fix "do not forward a call when the sending number doesn't terminate". Problem is that marketing companies will do things like have ex-country calls with in-country "sender" numbers so they can use foreign call centres and appear to be calling from the UK.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Over the past 6 months the number of robocalls to my mobile number has increased from 1 or 2 a week to at least 5+ a day. I’ve also just stopped answering numbers I don’t recognize.m, which isn’t always ideal because I miss legitimate calls now. I actually just send it immediately to voicemail. Most of the time my voicemail box is full because it’s filled with junk I don’t bother clearing out. Ive contemplated changi…

I've moved to a new area code and kept my old number. Aside from known contacts, if I get a call from my phone's area code, I know it is not legit. If I get a call from my new area code, I know it has to be a local someone and I should answer it. Zero accepted robo calls in 6mo.

I've also done the "moved out of the area code of my number 15 years ago" [1], but someone's gotten smarter lately. They've hooked up to some sort of information source and I'm getting a lot more robo calls from my real area code lately. Since we have so many dozens of thousands of our best and brightest thinking day in and day out about how to violate our privacy, more dozens of thousands figuring out how to monetize that data, and so many dozens of our best and brightest thinking about how to secure that data, I can't even begin to guess what they've got a hold of or what it is, just that it's enough to start spamming me with faked calls that look a lot more real.

I've literally noticed this just in the last couple of weeks; at least for me, it's a relatively recent development. YMMV.

[1]: https://xkcd.com/1129/

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Just not willing to do this. I never want to miss a call from someone talking about an emergency with a family member, the FAA calling about an unclosed flight plan, a recruiter (if job hunting), a delivery person, etc. I answer virtually all unknown numbers except the ones T-Mobile puts in as “Scam Likely.” What I do not understand is, given that the phone is a computer, why there is not an on-phone IVR which can so…

> why there is not an on-phone IVR which can solicit a brief intro. Google has that, but I'm not sure if it's on-phone. I'd wager someone could write an app to do this. I would probably pay $50 for an on-phone version of Lenny; basically a voice-based chat-bot that keeps spammers occupied, without having to conference another number in. ( https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/d3b7na/the-story-of-lenny... )

I don't understand what's meant by on-phone, but the google feature asks the caller to introduce themselves and why they're calling, and transcribes the response for the user to read in realtime.

I use it for every number I don't know, and so far it's been 100% successful (in the sense that, afaik, no one who I wanted to hear from has hung up on Google Assistant).

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages. Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.

I don't understand why young (I'm making an assumption here) people don't like making or receiving voice calls. I'd far rather talk to someone than text them. Texting requires far more effort and takes far more time.

I'm 40 and hate making and receiving voice calls.

First things first: Everyone hears your end of the conversation with a voice call. I absolutely hate that: My family would pick up pieces (by accident or not) and when my ex's mental illness was worse, he would listen. Period.

But there are also other things: I can flush the toilet. I don't have to do as many "formalities" and I don't have to stop everything I'm doing to have a conversation with someone.

I figure communication goes on a sliding scale of intrusiveness. Video is the most intrusive (I don't know why old sci-fi wanted this!)... and text the least.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Just not willing to do this. I never want to miss a call from someone talking about an emergency with a family member, the FAA calling about an unclosed flight plan, a recruiter (if job hunting), a delivery person, etc. I answer virtually all unknown numbers except the ones T-Mobile puts in as “Scam Likely.” What I do not understand is, given that the phone is a computer, why there is not an on-phone IVR which can so…

My strategy is: if I don’t know the caller they can leave a voicemail. If it’s not important enough for a voicemail, it’s not important.

Same here. Makes sense. If it's important at all they'll leave a message.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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I wonder if the solution is remarkably simple: Make phone calls expensive again. Get rid of unlimited/free/super-cheap rates and make all callers pay by the minute again. Especially inbound international calls. Let people who want free communication use FaceTime and SMS and Email and whatnot. But make phone calls expensive enough that you know if someone is paying to call you it must be important. I got my first docu…

I believe this is one reason why spam calls are less of a problem in Europe - in Europe the caller pays the higher rate to call mobile phones (vs the north America system where the cell phone user pays for incoming "airtime"). Just looking at skypeout rates and an example, UK landlines cost 2 cents/min vs 10 cents for mobiles

>in Europe the caller pays the higher rate to call mobile phones (vs the north America system where the cell phone user pays for incoming "airtime").

So in Europe, is receiving calls on a mobile phones free? Or do you still have to pay for minutes?

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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I believe this is one reason why spam calls are less of a problem in Europe - in Europe the caller pays the higher rate to call mobile phones (vs the north America system where the cell phone user pays for incoming "airtime"). Just looking at skypeout rates and an example, UK landlines cost 2 cents/min vs 10 cents for mobiles

>in Europe the caller pays the higher rate to call mobile phones (vs the north America system where the cell phone user pays for incoming "airtime"). So in Europe, is receiving calls on a mobile phones free? Or do you still have to pay for minutes?

At least in the countries I'm familiar with it's free, unless you're in a different country and have to pay roaming charges. (Gotta be careful with "in Europe" claims)

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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post #135

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A bunch of carriers like tmobile and att can filter spam at their network. I was getting 5+ a day so I'm testing tmobiles name ID. But it's an extra $4/month when it should be included. Most people just use hiya and all of the apps that community source the blocking. Tbh my experience is probably better with those.

It's part of being completely incompetent at their job then charging people for the "convenience" It's the same BS with credit scores/credit freeze

This appears to be the new-style of "American innovation". You junk something up, break it, or otherwise make things worse and then take your cut out of restoring something resembling the status quo. Living in a gangster's paradise...

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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How do you get--and keep--a job? Have friends? Make medical appointments? Order pizza?

For the last one - meteoric rise of services like JustEat meant that I haven't had to ring anyone to order food for at least 8 years now. If your restaurant is not on justeat/Uber eats/you have your own website that allows ordering, then I'm not interested in ordering from you. Also, if you order through a phone how do you pay? In cash??

You can read the card number to them on the phone. This is what we did back in the day back when credit cards were common but online ordering was much of a thing yet.
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