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Post by sethammons »

agotterer wrote: post #151
shereadsthenews wrote: post #5

I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages. Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.

Over the past 6 months the number of robocalls to my mobile number has increased from 1 or 2 a week to at least 5+ a day. I’ve also just stopped answering numbers I don’t recognize.m, which isn’t always ideal because I miss legitimate calls now. I actually just send it immediately to voicemail. Most of the time my voicemail box is full because it’s filled with junk I don’t bother clearing out. Ive contemplated changi…

I've moved to a new area code and kept my old number. Aside from known contacts, if I get a call from my phone's area code, I know it is not legit. If I get a call from my new area code, I know it has to be a local someone and I should answer it. Zero accepted robo calls in 6mo.

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Post by mike_hollinger »

It occurred to me just last week that land line phones have caller ID as I was helping my parents port their land line into a VOIP service. How is it that cell phones, a nominally more advanced technology, lack this function which was retrofitted into the analog phone system? I'd love to read or hear more about how that came about.

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Post by dkersten »

probably_wrong wrote: post #92
mattkrause wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you get--and keep--a job? Have friends? Make medical appointments? Order pizza?

I am not the person you are replying to, but I would like to point out that my job never calls me (and if they expected me to be reachable they would give me a work phone), I keep in touch with my friends via my computer, and I order pizza online. Medical appointments are still done over the phone, though, but not always. I wouldn't go as far as to have no phone number whatsoever, but living without one doesn't seem…

I lived without a phone number for about 9 months a few years ago. My phone was basically a WiFi device. I really enjoyed this time and am considering doing it again. I only stopped because my brother got annoyed and bought me a new SIM, but nowadays he doesn’t call me much and uses internet for voice. Even my mother uses WhatsApp for voice.

Having a WiFi-only device (as opposed to a data-only one) did mean I had to plan things a bit, just like I had to do before mobile phones became such a popular thing. It wasn’t a big deal at all.

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Post by dcbadacd »

wongarsu wrote: post #154
LeonM wrote: post #146

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Might also be because the Netherlands is a small and relatively expensive country in Europe where international rates are quite high. So, it's not compelling enough for them to open an call center in NL, and placing it outside of NL would increase their phone costs. Also, not many people on the planet speak dutch, so the addressable market is quite small.

Germany is very big (4th largest economy in the world) and we have no problems with robocalls at all. I don't think I've ever experienced a robocall.

I've had the same number for like 14 years now and I haven't gotten a single(!) robocall. So I share your experience.

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Post by astura »

Waterluvian wrote: post #188
ysavir wrote: post #176

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Do you have any concerns over being an emergency contact for anyone? I've considered doing the same as you, but I fear the chance that a I would be contacted in such a scenario and wouldn't even know it.

You should be consciously aware of who might emergency contact you anyways. Add them to your whitelist. Edit: all good points. Yeah I guess that is a risk. Also reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/J-inCB3POqs

Yeah, because when your spouse is getting rolled into emergency surgery after suddenly collapsing you'll definitely know what number is going to call you to inform you, so you'll want to whitelist that one. And when a drunk driver hits her car on a rural road in the middle of the night and her phone is trapped in the wreck, you'll want to make sure you whitelist the phone number of the passerby that stops to help. And when your elderly parents' house is burning down (along with their phones) you'll definitely know all the phone numbers of all possible emergency responders and neighbors, so whitelist all of them too.

That's not even considering mundane everyday stuff like delivery people/repair people who got lost or have to reschedule last minute. You might have the main number for the business whitelisted, but those sorts of calls usually come from the phone number of the day's driver.

The only people who think "just disable incoming phone calls" is a viable option either have no friends and/or family, very little life experience, or both.

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Post by joombaga »

mruts wrote: post #160
gambiting wrote: post #127

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For the last one - meteoric rise of services like JustEat meant that I haven't had to ring anyone to order food for at least 8 years now. If your restaurant is not on justeat/Uber eats/you have your own website that allows ordering, then I'm not interested in ordering from you. Also, if you order through a phone how do you pay? In cash??

I don’t understand? Is paying with cash a problem?

No, but it's less convenient, less trackable, and less safe than e.g. a credit card.

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Post by dcbadacd »

icedchai wrote: post #3
busymom0 wrote: post #2

Scammers are getting more and more sophisticated now a days. It seems like most of these scam calls are a result of the ability to spoof phone numbers. Spoofing phone numbers does have legitimate purposes (for example a phone number from a customer service company is able to use their company phone number as the caller ID) but these scammers seem to abuse this. It's quite similar to how SMTP for emails allows the "Fr…

Just like with email, that ship sailed a long time ago. In many cases, there is no "real" underlying phone number (example: VOIP... VOIP numbers may as well be disposable.)

Actually E-mail has things such as DMARC, DKIM and SPF that tremendously cut down scam looking real from certain domains. Another topic is just direct scam from new domain names but that's not what OP and you're talking about.

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Post by booleandilemma »

SomeHacker44 wrote: post #198
Waterluvian wrote: post #164

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Absolutely. The phone system is totally broken. A few years ago I disabled the incoming call part of my phone to everyone except a few family members and my wife. So far it's been great. Everyone who needs me emails me. I've yet to run into a situation where someone I needed to hear from would only call me.

Just not willing to do this. I never want to miss a call from someone talking about an emergency with a family member, the FAA calling about an unclosed flight plan, a recruiter (if job hunting), a delivery person, etc. I answer virtually all unknown numbers except the ones T-Mobile puts in as “Scam Likely.” What I do not understand is, given that the phone is a computer, why there is not an on-phone IVR which can so…

My strategy is:

if I don’t know the caller they can leave a voicemail. If it’s not important enough for a voicemail, it’s not important.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by dcbadacd »

busymom0 wrote: post #2

Scammers are getting more and more sophisticated now a days. It seems like most of these scam calls are a result of the ability to spoof phone numbers. Spoofing phone numbers does have legitimate purposes (for example a phone number from a customer service company is able to use their company phone number as the caller ID) but these scammers seem to abuse this. It's quite similar to how SMTP for emails allows the "Fr…

SMTP is nowadays quite protectable against real domains being used by someone else. SPF, DKIM and DMARC all tremendously help.

However, Microsoft has a patent that stops a few additional measures from being taken against certain spoofings (SPFv2), you can thank them for that.

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Post by maccard »

astura wrote: post #167
maccard wrote: post #109

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I do t disagree with you that answerinf your phone can be necessary, but most of your examples are cases where you are expecting a call - except your doctor/dentist. Why are they calling you and not you calling them to make appointments? Semo-related but it's infuriating how many companies refuse to contact you by email. I'm currently remortgaging a flat, and I've told the broker repeatedly to contact me by email, an…

>Why are they calling you and not you calling them to make appointments? Um.... they have to let you know that you need an appointment. "Your lab tests came back and we'd like to make a follow-up appointment." My mortgage broker didn't mind emails.

> Your lab tests came back and we'd like to make a follow-up appointment."

So you're expecting a call from them in this case?

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