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Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by mey »

saalweachter wrote: post #12
spectramax wrote: post #8

I feel like if FCC/Telephone providers don't fix this soon, traditional cell phones will become unreliable and we will need to adopt a new system or just use existing framework (facetime, whatsapp, etc.). If every cell phone has LTE and internet connection, why the fuck do we need traditional cell phone number? I never use it except for calling my pharmacy, customer support or restaurants/shops. All conversations wit…

I occasionally contemplate trying to find a data-only plan for my cell phone, with no associated cell number.

That may be impossible under current cell designs. WiFi hotspots even have assigned phone numbers.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by nimchimpsky »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #26

I started with an experiment about a year back and now I've practically stopped answering phone calls. My phone responses are now async. Just like an email, I look up the missed calls list once a while and call back if I know someone or was expecting a call from a particular number. The phone is kept silent at all times and is on DND mode from the first minute of the day to the last. The only call that passes through…

You've created a website to tell people you have your phone set to silent.

This seems counter intuitive to me.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by Aloha »

warp wrote: post #11
busymom0 wrote: post #2

Scammers are getting more and more sophisticated now a days. It seems like most of these scam calls are a result of the ability to spoof phone numbers. Spoofing phone numbers does have legitimate purposes (for example a phone number from a customer service company is able to use their company phone number as the caller ID) but these scammers seem to abuse this. It's quite similar to how SMTP for emails allows the "Fr…

This is apparently being implemented as we speak ( SHAKEN/STIR, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHAKEN/STIR ). (which seems a US focused initiative, which I guess makes sense as the problem seems much worse there than in other countries... but I wonder if that means that you guys will be getting lots of robocalls from unknown foreign numbers in the future ;)

If a majority of robocalls are originating on IP endpoints as the entry to the PSTN - this would appear to solve the issue at hand, SHAKEN/STIR, is an IP only protocol, and has not been extended to TDM originating traffic though (nor could it be really)

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by godelski »

shereadsthenews wrote: post #5

I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages. Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.

Slightly off topic (of the OP, not parent comment)

Are you referring to this? [0] I was googling because I was interested. Looking at this the data seems fishy. Under total respondents they have answers for the age group, but not under any of the democratic/democratic leaning responses. So it looks like they only interviewed republicans under 50 and both groups 50+. There's some more fishy patterns like that with repubs So it is hard to say if only young republicans answer their phones or the data set is (purposefully?) biased.

[0] http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/03/19/rel4b.-.2020.pdf

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by bigDICK »

ElCapitanMarkla wrote: post #22
spectramax wrote: post #8

I feel like if FCC/Telephone providers don't fix this soon, traditional cell phones will become unreliable and we will need to adopt a new system or just use existing framework (facetime, whatsapp, etc.). If every cell phone has LTE and internet connection, why the fuck do we need traditional cell phone number? I never use it except for calling my pharmacy, customer support or restaurants/shops. All conversations wit…

My phones so bad that I have the do not disturb night mode feature enabled full time only allowing people in my contacts to ring. It really annoys me that there isn’t a way of filtering calls based on country. 99% of my junk calls come from Australian numbers, so if I could just block Australia...

A lot of spam calls I get aren't in English. I'd like to filter voicemails by language.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by abtinf »

What baffles me about this is that getting people to dial these numbers has been a known scam for many years. The fix seems stupidly trivial: break up the North American Numbering Plan to move them out of the +1 zone. They just don’t belong there. Frankly, Canada should be moved out the +1 zone too.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by blotter_paper »

baroffoos wrote: post #29
Brajeshwar wrote: post #26

I started with an experiment about a year back and now I've practically stopped answering phone calls. My phone responses are now async. Just like an email, I look up the missed calls list once a while and call back if I know someone or was expecting a call from a particular number. The phone is kept silent at all times and is on DND mode from the first minute of the day to the last. The only call that passes through…

That only works if others don't do it however because they won't get your call back.

Nah, it just degrades into voice mail.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by gpm »

shereadsthenews wrote: post #5

I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages. Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.

I answer the phone because people who I have to be responsive to call it.

I'm currently getting a visa, if someone involved in the decision making process calls my number I better answer it.

I was interviewing for a job not that long ago, when people get back to me by the phone I better answer it.

When my dentist or doctor calls to schedule an appointment I need to answer it.

If a family member needs to get my attention a phone call works better than text - the ringtone is more noticeable.

Of course I live in Canada and my number isn't scattered everywhere on the web, I don't think I even get a robocall a week on average. But even if I lived in the states, I don't see how I could avoid the first two requiring I answer my phone sometimes, possibly the third as well but at least I'm the client there so I might be able to talk them into an alternative means of contacting me.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by yebyen »

TylerE wrote: post #25
ElCapitanMarkla wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My phones so bad that I have the do not disturb night mode feature enabled full time only allowing people in my contacts to ring. It really annoys me that there isn’t a way of filtering calls based on country. 99% of my junk calls come from Australian numbers, so if I could just block Australia...

Wouldn't help here in the US. They almost always fake caller id from a local prefix.

70% of the spam calls I get could be stopped simply by blocking the exact same exchange that my number is in.

Do spam callers really think I'm expecting a call from the same area code, same exchange as my own number? Do most people have friends that have phone numbers with the same first six digits in common with their own?

I feel like this trick can't possibly work on anyone who has already seen it twice, and just based on the number of times I've seen it, I have to assume everyone has seen it at least five times by now, either that or they aren't even paying attention to caller ID at all.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by Scoundreller »

golem14 wrote: post #30
Scoundreller wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I like about PSTN is it’s open nature. If I tried to build an online voicemail system for WhatsApp or FaceTime, I’d get banned. I like having my PSTN voicemails emailed to me. And calls logs in csv. If someone says they called me 3 years earlier, I can find that out without scrolling.

Then google voice might be for you ...

Not as an unamerican.
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