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'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by warp »

busymom0 wrote: post #2

Scammers are getting more and more sophisticated now a days. It seems like most of these scam calls are a result of the ability to spoof phone numbers. Spoofing phone numbers does have legitimate purposes (for example a phone number from a customer service company is able to use their company phone number as the caller ID) but these scammers seem to abuse this. It's quite similar to how SMTP for emails allows the "Fr…

This is apparently being implemented as we speak ( SHAKEN/STIR, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHAKEN/STIR ).

(which seems a US focused initiative, which I guess makes sense as the problem seems much worse there than in other countries... but I wonder if that means that you guys will be getting lots of robocalls from unknown foreign numbers in the future ;)

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by saalweachter »

spectramax wrote: post #8

I feel like if FCC/Telephone providers don't fix this soon, traditional cell phones will become unreliable and we will need to adopt a new system or just use existing framework (facetime, whatsapp, etc.). If every cell phone has LTE and internet connection, why the fuck do we need traditional cell phone number? I never use it except for calling my pharmacy, customer support or restaurants/shops. All conversations wit…

I occasionally contemplate trying to find a data-only plan for my cell phone, with no associated cell number.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by rqs »

busymom0 wrote: post #2

Scammers are getting more and more sophisticated now a days. It seems like most of these scam calls are a result of the ability to spoof phone numbers. Spoofing phone numbers does have legitimate purposes (for example a phone number from a customer service company is able to use their company phone number as the caller ID) but these scammers seem to abuse this. It's quite similar to how SMTP for emails allows the "Fr…

> I think, the best way to solve this phone scam issue would be by modifying the phone protocol (I am not sure of the details) to allow users to be able to see the "Real" underlying phone number.

In China, we call this type of scam "响一声". It was very common until phone screen softwares started marking this kind of calls[0] so people stopped calling them back.

Maybe use one of those call screen app (offline one is better) until phone companies figured out how to resolve this?

[0] https://i.imgur.com/vkzbqhc

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by chrisseaton »

shereadsthenews wrote: post #5

I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages. Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.

Why does anyone spend the time to answer a poll for a for-profit company? I bet the person making the call is being compensated but they want the callee’s time for free?

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by [deleted] »

saalweachter wrote: post #12
spectramax wrote: post #8

I feel like if FCC/Telephone providers don't fix this soon, traditional cell phones will become unreliable and we will need to adopt a new system or just use existing framework (facetime, whatsapp, etc.). If every cell phone has LTE and internet connection, why the fuck do we need traditional cell phone number? I never use it except for calling my pharmacy, customer support or restaurants/shops. All conversations wit…

I occasionally contemplate trying to find a data-only plan for my cell phone, with no associated cell number.

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Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by Scoundreller »

shereadsthenews wrote: post #5

I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages. Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.

Work phones and/or being on-call.

Encouraging non-PSTN calls can have huge privacy implications (e.g. using Facebook for health care provider communications).

But ya; personally, I have a dedicated voicemail number that I hand out when I “must” provide a phone number.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by unityByFreedom »

Great work FCC. Now that all our communications are done over the internet, and ISPs are effectively no longer common carriers [1], you've enabled those internet fast lanes and we'll all get rich.

Just kidding, we will pay more for slower internet. But hey, you alerted us about robocalls, so not your fault right?

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/12/14...

EDIT: Please explain downvotes. You feel the current FCC are saints and would never think such things?

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by Scoundreller »

spectramax wrote: post #8

I feel like if FCC/Telephone providers don't fix this soon, traditional cell phones will become unreliable and we will need to adopt a new system or just use existing framework (facetime, whatsapp, etc.). If every cell phone has LTE and internet connection, why the fuck do we need traditional cell phone number? I never use it except for calling my pharmacy, customer support or restaurants/shops. All conversations wit…

What I like about PSTN is it’s open nature. If I tried to build an online voicemail system for WhatsApp or FaceTime, I’d get banned.

I like having my PSTN voicemails emailed to me. And calls logs in csv.

If someone says they called me 3 years earlier, I can find that out without scrolling.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by millstone »

chrisseaton wrote: post #14
shereadsthenews wrote: post #5

I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages. Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.

Why does anyone spend the time to answer a poll for a for-profit company? I bet the person making the call is being compensated but they want the callee’s time for free?

To express and represent your point of view.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by unityByFreedom »

chrisseaton wrote: post #14
shereadsthenews wrote: post #5

I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages. Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.

Why does anyone spend the time to answer a poll for a for-profit company? I bet the person making the call is being compensated but they want the callee’s time for free?

I guess some people enjoy sharing their opinion. Not everybody does, some people just hang up.
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