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Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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Post by hu3 »

ehsankia wrote: post #12
Nullabillity wrote: post #7

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Yes, running experiments on unknowning and unconsenting users is unethical, especially when the metrics being optimized for usually aren't in the users' best interests. The widespread acceptance for this behaviour could definitely be classified as brain damage.

> the metrics being optimized for usually aren't in the users' best interests Do you have any source for that? If you truly believe that Firefox is optimizing metrics that aren't in the users' best interest in general, why are you even using said software in the first place?

For starters, Mozilla dropped RSS support after shoving proprietary closed source software down our throats in the form of Pocket.

I don't see this as having users best interests in mind.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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Post by Causality1 »

fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #42
tomc1985 wrote: post #27

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Firefox on mac used to be like that, but recent versions (last year or two) haven't had that issue You're probably being downvoted for negging others' beloved browser

Yeah, I gave Firefox a second chance with the quantum updates but, I ran into all the same performance issues I’ve associated with Firefox since version 3

I found Quantum gave noticeable performance improvements. Not enough to justify crippling the extensions I use constantly and insultingly taking away the ability to make the UI look the way I want it to look, but improvements nonetheless.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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Post by deadbunny »

jopsen wrote: post #112
wvenable wrote: post #100

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Yeah, this also worked for me on Android. Not sure why the downvotes.

You're better off waiting a few more hours that disabling important security features.

Disabling noscript is a bigger security issue.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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Post by sciurus »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #130
apetresc wrote: post #125

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Huh? When was it promoted as a replacement, by whom? It’s not even in the same product category/ RSS aggregates updates to websites without needing to check them. Pocket takes an article you have open in your browser right now and saves a local offline copy on your phone. They’re apples and oranges. Apples and orangutangs, even.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/13/17446660/mozilla-firefox-... This sounds a lot like pushing it as an alternative to RSS to me.

That interview with the Pocket CEO never mentions RSS.

(Disclaimer: I work for Mozilla but not on any functionality related to this)

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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Post by zaat »

andrewshadura wrote: post #123
zaat wrote: post #57

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I was pretty pissed about the issue and the reasons that led to it, would you please introduce me to the trusted browser provider you are heading to? Because despite this and all the previous issues, I don't see any alternative that is half as good or cares about me as a user.

Have you tried Firefox?

It's my main driver since ~2003, so yeah, I did and still do.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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Post by louiz »

durpleDrank wrote: post #103

>open ff >lastpass gone >google error messages >please update ff >update >browser works I'm sorry to break it to you Chrome fanboys but it'll take a lot more than a minor extensions goof up (that was fixed in a day) for me to switch my browser.

For you, sure.

For all the people that had their browser completely broken for the whole day, without any reason, however…

And your one-day fix, how much time do you think it will take to be deployed on people’s linux system? Probably a few days or more. Probably enough for them to realize that they can just switch to Chrome to have a working browser.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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Post by userbinator »

jopsen wrote: post #112
wvenable wrote: post #100

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Yeah, this also worked for me on Android. Not sure why the downvotes.

You're better off waiting a few more hours that disabling important security features.

The only "security" it provided was to prevent people from installing add-ons that Mozilla didn't approve of, ostensibly ones it thinks are malicious, and I'd bet that on Android (which has its own app isolation features anyway) that's even less of a problem.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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Post by saagarjha »

rgrieselhuber wrote: post #55
enriquto wrote: post #31

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As author of the original "pessimistic" comment, I want to say that I agree 100% with you. Mozilla is indeed the most important free software project today. Thus, I am very sad and pessimistic when they exhibit subpar behavior such as this.

Given the HN guidelines on this, I’ll lay off on the specific type of comment I made. (Although it’s quite a normal thing to notice and point out in other communities). However, precisely because of the importance projects like Mozilla and browser technology in general, I think it is perfectly reasonable to expect the highest standard of behavior. I personally have concerns about certain aspects of their activities (…

You are well within your rights to express your criticisms of the project, but claiming bad faith with no evidence to back it isn't.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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Post by chii »

bo1024 wrote: post #140
whatamidoingyo wrote: post #127

I've been waiting to see this. Just updated from 65.0 to 66.0.3. My addons are still disabled. Tried to install ublock origin, and it's not letting me. I'm getting a "Download failed. Please check your connection." This is crazy, and I'm really disappointed with Mozilla. I'd leave firefox right now, but I don't want to contribute to the destruction of one of the last good pieces of software not owned by Google.

I installed Opera yesterday. So far so good. Hope others will chime in with more alternatives

opera is now just the chrome engine. I don't think there's any alternative to chrome but firefox now-a-days, as even microsoft gave in and started using chrome's blink engine.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

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Post by detaro »

sciurus wrote: post #59
INTPenis wrote: post #34

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Same. I found some pretty good instructions[1] so all my plugins started working this morning, CET. And you can disable the studies when you're done. 1. https://forums.informaction.com/viewtopic.php?p=100053#p1000...

Please don't lower the value of run_interval_seconds like suggested there. If many people do that it will cause those of us on the ops team for Firefox's backend services some headaches.

I understand the sentiment, but "Please turn on studies and wait for an undefined amount of hours to get the fix" is also causing quite a bit of headache, so especially without a good (publicly given) reason to not tell people to download the studies XPI directly and fix it immediately you might want to overthink the impression that leaves on users.
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