Questions About Food and Climate Change, Answered

Post by misiti3780 » Thu, May 02, 2019, 2:40 PM UTC

jamil7 wrote: post #127

misiti3780 wrote: post #59

I know this isnt going to be a popular opinion here, but I'm going to say it anyways -- we are simply not going eat our away out of this climate change problem, and we shouldnt even try, we should focus the efforts in other places Here is the current breakdown of the world's emissions as of 2018: 1. heavy industry (29 percent) 2. buildings (18 percent) 3. transport (15 percent) 4. land-use change (15 percent) 5. the…

I agree with you but I wonder why you discourage changing diet to include less meat. While it has less of an impact it's one of the easier things on that list to directly influence as a single human being. It also has knock on effects and health benefits. We can focus our efforts in multiple places, going vegan won't distract us from the other areas. I won't try to debate you or change your mind however and I agree t…

Post by ptah » Thu, May 02, 2019, 2:49 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #77

misiti3780 wrote: post #59

I know this isnt going to be a popular opinion here, but I'm going to say it anyways -- we are simply not going eat our away out of this climate change problem, and we shouldnt even try, we should focus the efforts in other places Here is the current breakdown of the world's emissions as of 2018: 1. heavy industry (29 percent) 2. buildings (18 percent) 3. transport (15 percent) 4. land-use change (15 percent) 5. the…

Going from the average diet to becoming a vegan would save about 1 ton per person annually: http://www.greeneatz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/foods-ca... . The carbon footprint in the U.S. is about 20 tons per capita annually, so going from an average diet to full vegan would save just 5%. (Just cutting out beef would capture most of those gains, reducing CO2 footprint by 0.6 tons, or 3%.) Just eating less meat, or…

Post by vram11 » Thu, May 02, 2019, 7:02 PM UTC

agentultra wrote: post #92

vram22 wrote: post #86

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>Is organic farming the answer? No. It tends to use more land for less output Use of land per unit of output (or vice versa) is not the only important metric though, not by a long chalk. A more holistic approach is needed [1], otherwise it is back to the same as the issues that the OP attempts to address. [1] An approach that considers equally important things like effects of pesticides, other negative effects of non…

I agree and the article was more nuanced than that. I think organic farming is great and maybe needs GMO in order to thrive, sustainably, into the climate/soil future. It's a deep topic and there are no simple answers, thanks for pointing that out!

Post by YeGoblynQueenne » Thu, May 02, 2019, 7:53 PM UTC

cageface wrote: post #128

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #119

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I don't see what dominance has to do with privileges and responsibilities. Besides, humans "dominate" only in a very narrow sense. Most of the biomass on the planet is not human. There are many species of insects and microorganisms that are much more "dominant" than we are. Other animals don't necessarily kill out of necessity. For example, many animals perform surplus killing [1] - I personally know of two dogs who,…

First of all it’s not at all difficult to get plenty of protein from plant sources. You are most likely putting your children at much greater risk by feeding them factory farmed meat than not feeding them meat at all. I guess for me it just comes from a desire to respect and value all life. It’s in our power to create a world full of unnecessary death and cruelty or without it. Why would we choose the former? I found…

Post by dang » Fri, May 03, 2019, 5:00 AM UTC

cageface wrote: post #52

There’s a bunch of good reasons you should reduce or eliminate meat from your diet, including environmental effects but also including your health and mistreating and killing intelligent creatures. If your diet requires people to do things to thinking, feeling animals that would be criminal to do to a dog, maybe having some bacon on your breakfast plate really isn’t that important after all.