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Vodafone Found Hidden Backdoors in Huawei Equipment

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Re: Vodafone Found Hidden Backdoors in Huawei Equipment

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Post by tikkabhuna »

wqwh wrote: post #24
0898 wrote: post #18

As Jon Gruber says: "Bloomberg, of course, is the publication that published “The Big Hack” in October — a sensational story alleging that data centers of Apple, Amazon, and dozens of other companies were compromised by China’s intelligence services." "The story presented no confirmable evidence at all, was vehemently denied by all companies involved, has not been confirmed by a single other publication (despite much…

So like any other media publication? They are all in the business of lying, for profit or otherwise. I assume people at Bloomberg shorted Huawei stock before they published that.

The Economist frequently publishes corrections. I've also seen them note when one of their stakeholders is also linked to the topic of an article.

Re: Vodafone Found Hidden Backdoors in Huawei Equipment

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Post by wqwh »

tikkabhuna wrote: post #31
wqwh wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So like any other media publication? They are all in the business of lying, for profit or otherwise. I assume people at Bloomberg shorted Huawei stock before they published that.

The Economist frequently publishes corrections. I've also seen them note when one of their stakeholders is also linked to the topic of an article.

By the time they publish a correction it's late; they've already made money.

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Post by logifail »

0898 wrote: post #18

As Jon Gruber says: "Bloomberg, of course, is the publication that published “The Big Hack” in October — a sensational story alleging that data centers of Apple, Amazon, and dozens of other companies were compromised by China’s intelligence services." "The story presented no confirmable evidence at all, was vehemently denied by all companies involved, has not been confirmed by a single other publication (despite much…

> everything they publish should be treated with skepticism until they [..] provide evidence that it was true

Call me a cynic, but I'd hope all of us would want to take that approach with every source.

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Post by terlisimo »

wqwh wrote: post #24
0898 wrote: post #18

As Jon Gruber says: "Bloomberg, of course, is the publication that published “The Big Hack” in October — a sensational story alleging that data centers of Apple, Amazon, and dozens of other companies were compromised by China’s intelligence services." "The story presented no confirmable evidence at all, was vehemently denied by all companies involved, has not been confirmed by a single other publication (despite much…

So like any other media publication? They are all in the business of lying, for profit or otherwise. I assume people at Bloomberg shorted Huawei stock before they published that.

"Any other media publication" did not publish an almost identical sensationalist story a few months back, which turned out to be unsubstantiated crap.

Had any website other than bloomberg published this, I might have read past the headline.

Re: Vodafone Found Hidden Backdoors in Huawei Equipment

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Post by gloflo »

swarnie_ wrote: post #13

Has anyone else noticed the increased "scrutiny" the US has been putting on Chinese companies recently? Huawei seems to be the biggest example and its worrying me because they are starting to strong arm EU allies to follow in their footsteps. Both Germany and the UK have cleared Huawei to take put in 5g rollouts against the USA's wishes. I'm not sure who to side with here, the company with multiple allegations agains…

Absolutely, I find the increase of our politics and media attacking 'The Russians' and 'The Chinese' in recent years very concerning. Especially with the lack of reflection on our own actions both nationally and internationally. Like pervasive surveillance, hacking, military aggression and influencing elections, just to name a few.

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Post by mr__y »

amelius wrote: post #14

Can't Huawei just license their technology to a US firm, so this hardware can be implemented and produced under US supervision?

>Chinese company licensing their technology to a US company that would be a remarkable plot-twist

On the other hand given how sophisticated these things are , even if all the source code is available you can't be 100% sure to spot all the bugs/vulnerabilities/backdoors. I guess this applies to hardware equally well.

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Post by _cs2017_ »

negamax wrote: post #15

I can’t tell if this is true or an organized smear campaign against Huawei for monetary reasons.

My guess is it's not an organized smear campaign. Rather, it just happens to be a hot topic these days, an easy way to gain some clicks and subscriptions. Kinda like UFOs, government conspiracies, "Elvis Presley Seen Alive" etc., but for a slightly more sophisticated audience.

Re: Vodafone Found Hidden Backdoors in Huawei Equipment

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Post by SiempreViernes »

swarnie_ wrote: post #13

Has anyone else noticed the increased "scrutiny" the US has been putting on Chinese companies recently? Huawei seems to be the biggest example and its worrying me because they are starting to strong arm EU allies to follow in their footsteps. Both Germany and the UK have cleared Huawei to take put in 5g rollouts against the USA's wishes. I'm not sure who to side with here, the company with multiple allegations agains…

It was Obama that pivoted to putting China in the "big bad" portrait frame, though at the time scary foreigner wasn't an important part of the incumbents political strategy.

China has also relatively recently gotten a more hardliner leader, which is bound to sour relations with "the West" to some degree as he imposes weird restrictions on human rights and reverses the trend towards openness of years prior.

But the US now has an openly racist and explicitly nationalist (in US terms) president, so open conflict with the primary enemy was guaranteed from the start. For deep ideological reasons it is necessary for the current administration that there should be conflict with the rest of the world. With this sort of focus by the administration the media reporting is bound to follow to some extent.

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