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Vodafone Found Hidden Backdoors in Huawei Equipment

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Alternate headline:

Chinese intelligence joins US and Five Eyes coalition in public-private partnership global surveillance program, information sharing agreement to be discussed in upcoming trade talks.

Whataboutisms only work when the accuser is assuming something un-ordinary is happening, after knowingly or unknowingly exempting themselves from the behavior they already practice.

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post #9

The article takes a lot of words to explain they left a telnet server open. It wasn’t some super secret hidden thing.

Ah, but the article said that the telnet server "could still be launched," not that it was necessarily open. It could be one of those "magic knock" packets that 'launches' telnet, like the backdoor found in some Cisco routers a while back.

Also weird is that Huawei insisted on keeping it open until they'd completed testing... does that mean it's phoning home? Or that they have their own technicians coming around to service it?

Such a crappy article. Bloomberg should have learned from the Supermicro fiasco to include more details and not parrot a single source. At this point if IC is serious about Huawei posing a national security risk they should arrange a leak of their actual intel to force real public discussion..

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post #15

I can’t tell if this is true or an organized smear campaign against Huawei for monetary reasons.

Why not both? Many routers have had remote access vulnerabilities, but there's a clear reason to write about 2012-era vulns about Huawei and not some other manufacturer.

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post #18

As Jon Gruber says: "Bloomberg, of course, is the publication that published “The Big Hack” in October — a sensational story alleging that data centers of Apple, Amazon, and dozens of other companies were compromised by China’s intelligence services." "The story presented no confirmable evidence at all, was vehemently denied by all companies involved, has not been confirmed by a single other publication (despite much…

So like any other media publication? They are all in the business of lying, for profit or otherwise. I assume people at Bloomberg shorted Huawei stock before they published that.

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This article dances back and forth between saying "vulnerability" and "backdoor", which while they may have the same end result wildly differ in intent. I can't tell the seriousness of this except for the telnet one.

How anyone trusts Bloomberg after the Seamicro chip story is beyond my understanding. (and specially the way it was handled and not retracted — anyone can make mistakes, but owning them is most important).

Even the title could have been something else. Like this excerpt from the article:

> "Vodafone has defended Huawei against the U.S. onslaught"

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> Abandoning Huawei for 5G, with Europe already lagging behind China and the U.S., could force them to rip out the supplier’s 4G gear Does anyone know what this is about? Both the need to rip out 4G gear if they don't want to use the new 5G stuff, and also the statement about Europe being behind China and the USA?

I think the idea is that Europe would rip out all Huawei components after the scandal, requiring a revamp of both 4G and 5G networks.

I doubt the US is that much ahead of Europe. It's true 5G networks are yet to really roll out, but with the higher population density the 4G coverage and residential internet is better in most of Europe, making the current 4G network suffice for now for many people.

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post #9

The article takes a lot of words to explain they left a telnet server open. It wasn’t some super secret hidden thing.

Whether or not it was the intention here, leaving a common or garden vulnerability as a backdoor gives excellent plausible deniability. "Whoops, we overlooked that" is much easier to explain away than an obviously designed remote access mechanism

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post #12
post #5

Hard to know from the article, and Bloomberg does not have a good track record, if the 'backdoor' was a vulnerability , an unwanted feature or an actual backdoor. I might imagine a Chinese headline with "US firm Intel backdoors every CPU", which may or may not be true depending on your feelings on Intel ME

> Europe’s biggest phone company identified hidden backdoors in the software that could have given Huawei unauthorized access to the carrier’s fixed-line network in Italy, a system that provides internet service to millions of homes and businesses I think it is enough to be called a "backdoor".

No, when reading the whole article, there are much more varied interpretations.

Bloomberg added the 'political' backdoor spin.

Re: Vodafone Found Hidden Backdoors in Huawei Equipment

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post #15

I can’t tell if this is true or an organized smear campaign against Huawei for monetary reasons.

I believe it's both. I mean there could be some backdoors and there are some vulns portrayed as backdoors but probably the situation is no different for any other manufacturer. But since there is a campaign against Huawei everyone is concentrated on researching and reporting problems with that particular brand while ignoring all the others
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