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Burger King is rolling out meatless Impossible Whoppers nationwide

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Re: Burger King is rolling out meatless Impossible Whoppers nationwide

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Post by ArrayList »

nradov wrote: post #232
wccrawford wrote: post #69

As far as I can tell, I'm the target demographic for this. I eat beef (and other meat) burgers because I like how they taste. If this comes close, I'll gladly switch, even though they cost a little more. I'm far from vegetarian, but I've been thinking more and more that I'd like to slim down on my actual meat eating for a few reasons, including the environment, the animal living conditions, and the cholesterol. The o…

There is no significant link between dietary cholesterol and blood cholesterol levels. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/dietary-cholesterol-doe...

Except there is. You've been fooled by the egg industry shills.

https://nutritionfacts.org/2016/03/22/the-effects-of-dietary...

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Post by vages »

tracker1 wrote: post #226
wccrawford wrote: post #69

As far as I can tell, I'm the target demographic for this. I eat beef (and other meat) burgers because I like how they taste. If this comes close, I'll gladly switch, even though they cost a little more. I'm far from vegetarian, but I've been thinking more and more that I'd like to slim down on my actual meat eating for a few reasons, including the environment, the animal living conditions, and the cholesterol. The o…

The issue I have, is that this shouldn't cost more at all. They're literally charging more to process the food they're feeding the cows into something meat-like than it costs to actually buy the meat. If the cows are a less expensive process, then I'm just not into it. (Aside from the fact that I can't handle legumes anyway)

That's development costs. With time, the infrastructure to make these burgers will be as widely available as that to make cow burgers, and that will bring costs down.

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Post by mises »

doguozkan wrote: post #224
merpnderp wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a religion. I get not wanting factory farmed meat, but what's wrong with hunting meat for yourself? In the end we're all meat for something, even if it's just the worms.

My understanding is that it's an ethical decision about not killing an animal (or some animals) or directly supporting the killing of an animal. Hunting would be in conflict with this decision. The consequences around an animal's killing are irrelevant here.

It then seems that if an animal is dead, and you are simply picking up small traces from a grill, vegans ought not to have an issue.

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Post by gdubs »

qlm wrote: post #236
gdubs wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a side point, milk (in espresso drinks) was one of the last animal food products I’ve been holding on to. My five year old, who’s mostly vegan because she’s allergic to milk, said, “daddy, why do you keep putting cow milk in your coffee, you should stop.” I had read somewhere that it takes around two or three weeks to get used to the taste of something. I’m a coffee snob, and I really didn’t like the taste of almo…

Almond milk in coffee makes it taste like disgusting hot bitter marzipan imo.

Ha - a fair description of how I viewed it initially as well. Though, it is amazing how tastes can change. I have the gene that makes Cilantro taste like soap. When I first moved to California, I couldn’t stand it. A decade later and I love cilantro.

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Post by Mediterraneo10 »

MagicPropmaker wrote: post #217
Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #6

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Indeed, unless Burger King is using a completely separate grill for the vegetable burgers, some vegetarians/vegans are going to be upset that their vegetable patty was prepared where meat was and possibly exposed to meat, and there could be kosher/halal issues.

No person who keeps Kosher eats at Burger King. Even their restaurant here in Israel isn't Kosher https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/burger-king-returns-to-i...

TIL. But McDonalds in Israel is kosher, so why didn’t Burger King adopt the same policies in order to better complete with McD?

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Post by opportune »

nradov wrote: post #232
wccrawford wrote: post #69

As far as I can tell, I'm the target demographic for this. I eat beef (and other meat) burgers because I like how they taste. If this comes close, I'll gladly switch, even though they cost a little more. I'm far from vegetarian, but I've been thinking more and more that I'd like to slim down on my actual meat eating for a few reasons, including the environment, the animal living conditions, and the cholesterol. The o…

There is no significant link between dietary cholesterol and blood cholesterol levels. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/dietary-cholesterol-doe...

That was conventional knowledge for those "in the know" for the last couple years but I recently read a pretty big study which disputes this too: https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2019/03/eggs-cholester...

Which sucks because I really enjoyed eating tons of eggs for the few years where people thought they were actually not bad for you

Re: Burger King is rolling out meatless Impossible Whoppers nationwide

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Post by wendyjreichert »

scruple wrote: post #237
adrianmonk wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but they are being cooked in animal grease They are flame broiled, not grilled. They aren't cooked in any type of grease.

If I'm working the burger station and I'm cooking an impossible burger at the same station as regular burger patties there will be transfers between one and the other, no? I didn't mean they were _literally_ cooking them in animal grease but rather figuratively.

If you have a care for the environmental impact, would not having an additional grill be a waste of resources and harmful to the planet?

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Post by LesZedCB »

ponderatul wrote: post #201

I'm mostly worried about soy and generally, this human interventionism. Where you take something that has been with us for 2000 years and replace it with something else, on which it's impossible to have the same amount of data.

2000 years? humans have been consuming dairy for only 10,000 years, a very short evolutionary timescale. And many people can still barely consume it.

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Post by dragonwriter »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #245
MagicPropmaker wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No person who keeps Kosher eats at Burger King. Even their restaurant here in Israel isn't Kosher https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/burger-king-returns-to-i...

TIL. But McDonalds in Israel is kosher, so why didn’t Burger King adopt the same policies in order to better complete with McD?

Its a franchise, not a company store; a narrower rule for franchises in Israel might mean that instead of 1 in Israel, they have 0. They make more money off 1 than 0, so...

Were Burger King to actively seek to compete in Israel, they might adopt a kosher policy (and might also enforce it on franchisees, in order to protect the brand image). But since they aren't doing that, why bother with extra restrictions on who can pay them money to run a franchise?

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Post by phil248 »

tracker1 wrote: post #216

There's really no reason other than the "feel good" marketing that this should cost MORE than actual beef. As long as that's the case, it's more of a "pacify the woke" thing than a "make the world better" thing.

"As long as that's the case..."

As long as the hypothetical you stated without evidence is true, then we must accept the false choice you presented?

I may have failed to understand your point, or you may have failed to make one.

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