I think there should be a national effort to "spread out" the economy and fight the trend towards centralization in a few areas. If you build more housing in CA, even more people will move there and the overcrowding will become even worse. There should be incentives for companies to move away from places like SV and NY. More acceptance of remote work would help too but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
The answer to California's housing crisis is more housing
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Re: The answer to California's housing crisis is more housing
#72I think there should be a national effort to "spread out" the economy and fight the trend towards centralization in a few areas. If you build more housing in CA, even more people will move there and the overcrowding will become even worse. There should be incentives for companies to move away from places like SV and NY. More acceptance of remote work would help too but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
There are already tons of incentives and tax breaks like this for companies. Just for a recent example, see Amazon HQ2. Companies also have the added incentive of lower labor costs. It's clearly not enough yet.
Re: The answer to California's housing crisis is more housing
#73Have there been any studies examining the impact on the market of banning career landlords and REITs? What happens if you restrict residential housing to being owned by a single person who cannot own anything else in that area, rather than letting capital have the run of the place and treating homes as an investment plaything?
Re: The answer to California's housing crisis is more housing
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
That would significantly increase the taxes on agricultural use. Is that your intent? To incentivize high density residential, while making it hard to grow food?
There isn't much agricultural land, if any, in cities and suburbs. In the US, land is taxed at the local level (municipality and county), not at the state or federal level.
One instance in particular, they’ll run a harvester right next to a 6 story development, and it probably only takes 10 minutes of run-time. Pretty crazy, but it’s a tax savings.
Re: The answer to California's housing crisis is more housing
#75> because developers mostly would build high-end units This is such a frustrating perspective.
Developers want to build units that are 'high-end' because it's the best way to recoup their costs. Urban construction is expensive and many projects are made possible by a combination of loans, private equity funding, and government subsidies. The increase of supply in high-end apartments creates competitive pressure on older units, places with less amenities, places with dated design, and places in inferior locations. Since housing sorting resembles an auction, people with the highest rent budgets have the most options. Landlords of less ideal places will see some tenants filter out and replaced. Eventually, the replacements stop coming, because all people of higher rent budgets have already moved to more desirable places. Instead of letting apartments sit empty, the landlord might lower the rent while still staying within the profitability threshold.
This doesn't work every time. If people of high rent budgets never stop coming, they never have to lower prices: there's an undersupply on the high-end too. This is clearly the case in the Bay and other desirable areas of California.
Re: The answer to California's housing crisis is more housing
#76I think there should be a national effort to "spread out" the economy and fight the trend towards centralization in a few areas. If you build more housing in CA, even more people will move there and the overcrowding will become even worse. There should be incentives for companies to move away from places like SV and NY. More acceptance of remote work would help too but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
> There should be incentives for companies to move away from places like SV and NY. There are already tons of incentives and tax breaks like this for companies. Just for a recent example, see Amazon HQ2. Companies also have the added incentive of lower labor costs. It's clearly not enough yet.
That's a good example actually. It's hard to understand that NYC was offering subsidies to Amazon. NYC doesn't really need more people or more companies.
Re: The answer to California's housing crisis is more housing
#77I think there should be a national effort to "spread out" the economy and fight the trend towards centralization in a few areas. If you build more housing in CA, even more people will move there and the overcrowding will become even worse. There should be incentives for companies to move away from places like SV and NY. More acceptance of remote work would help too but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
Re: The answer to California's housing crisis is more housing
#78There is so much wasted/poorly optimized land in SF. I cringe whenever I see the massive surface level Safeway parking lot in Duboce/Church.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any new modern apartment is considered luxury. Its actually impossible to build non luxury apartments in Sf. It seems what people want is for builders to actively destroy the apartment after they build it so that it will be rented at a lower price.
> It seems what people want is for builders to actively destroy the apartment after they build it so that it will be rented at a lower price. What some people want is subsidized building of units in exchange for rent limits.
Re: The answer to California's housing crisis is more housing
#80Could this crisis be an instance of induced demand? [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand
California has been growing at a rate slower than other states. When it comes to domestic migration, it exports more people to other states than it accepts.
When it comes to international migration, net migration is less than births minus deaths, and that's with a low birth rate.
In the early 1960s, California had a population of 15 million and built 250k-300k homes per year. Currently California has a population of 40 million and build 80k homes per year.
After the next census, California is expected to lose representation in the House because most other states are growing faster than California.
California has had a major major change in population and building styles since 1980, but policy decisions are still made under the assumption that we are living with the 1960s numbers for building and population.