I'll tell you more. Earth is heated by an ongoing nuclear fusion reaction which emits a wide spectrum of radiation between 430-770THz. The radiation density during daytime is about 1KW/m^2, and some of it is proven to directly cause cancer. Is that "terrifying" enough?
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The Terrifying Potential of 5G
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#42I'll tell you more. Earth is heated by an ongoing nuclear fusion reaction which emits a wide spectrum of radiation between 430-770THz. The radiation density during daytime is about 1KW/m^2, and some of it is proven to directly cause cancer. Is that "terrifying" enough?
The fusion reaction is obviously is less powerful to our receivers than 5G, otherwise we'd not have 5G. UV is obviously more powerful to our DNA than telcom, otherwise we'd all have noticed an increase in melanoma on our thighs and ears.
Antenna size and shape is important relative to signal , as is total energy, impedence, etc.
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#43Maybe I’m not forward thinking enough, but I’ve yet to hear any compelling new use cases for 5G. I’m doubtful it’ll be of much use for self-driving cars or robotic surgery, and 4G is more than fast/low latency enough for my phone needs and the needs of most people. I really don’t see how 5G is going to add anywhere close to $12T to the economy.
Game Streaming (like Google Stadia), AR/VR (because you need to download the models which are usually big). Accoding to AngelList newsletter that I read: https://sg-mktg.com/MTU1NTYwNzI3Nnw4YzJTNW5sbi1uQW9ScXVCOElJ...
Investing in 5G in some of the areas with predicted boom might just turn out to be too expensive in comparison with the expected revenue.
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You also get EM radiation from the electric wiring in your house, lightbulbs, the sun and so on. It's also about the strength of that EM radiation that determines is if it's harmful. To compare, your wifi router does a max of 4000mW transmission, which is 4W
The 50/60hz wiring radiation is a mild annoyance compared to 2.4 and 5Ghz wifi (I prefer 5Ghz because it seems to transfer less heat to my tissues); I sporadically use 4G on my phone so I don't need a permanent wifi installation in my room. Contrarily, I've found that staring into the sun, early in the morning for seconds up to a few minutes, is quite pleasant. If 5G is much worse than 4G I'm literally getting lead-l…
Your microwave is a Faraday cage, it's not supposed to let microwaves leak out -> https://www.amazon.com/Microwave-Leak-Detector/s?k=Microwave... something like this might tell you if it's damaged.
A double blind test where you are deafened so you can't hear it, and don't know when it's on/off, would be interesting.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
You also get EM radiation from the electric wiring in your house, lightbulbs, the sun and so on. It's also about the strength of that EM radiation that determines is if it's harmful. To compare, your wifi router does a max of 4000mW transmission, which is 4W
Where are you getting that information from ? My outdoor Wifi CPE has maximum Tx Power of 23dBm which is about 200mW, which gives me signal strenght of -65dBm and my internet tower is approx 6Km far. I think you have typo on the decimal points on the watts.
2.4 ghz tends to be 200mW, and 5ghz max tends to be 4000mW. I wanted to be as pessimistic as possible to still make my point.
Although with stuff like 4x4 MU-MIMO routers or dual network routers with one for 2.4ghz and for 5ghz, you could say it's 4 radios at once = 16W max. Radiation per inch of 4x4W power sources is different than one 16W source, so it's not 1:1.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
The 50/60hz wiring radiation is a mild annoyance compared to 2.4 and 5Ghz wifi (I prefer 5Ghz because it seems to transfer less heat to my tissues); I sporadically use 4G on my phone so I don't need a permanent wifi installation in my room. Contrarily, I've found that staring into the sun, early in the morning for seconds up to a few minutes, is quite pleasant. If 5G is much worse than 4G I'm literally getting lead-l…
> I prefer 5Ghz because it seems to transfer less heat to my tissues A single 60W incandescent bulb (which has about 10% efficiency for its lighting) transfers more heat to your tissues than a stack of 10 home routers.
Like the difference between a lightbulb and a tissue-penetrating laser strobe.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Game Streaming (like Google Stadia), AR/VR (because you need to download the models which are usually big). Accoding to AngelList newsletter that I read: https://sg-mktg.com/MTU1NTYwNzI3Nnw4YzJTNW5sbi1uQW9ScXVCOElJ...
That is reasonable but IMO they are over-estimating the market size. And businesses are very interested in the return of investment metric. Investing in 5G in some of the areas with predicted boom might just turn out to be too expensive in comparison with the expected revenue.
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It's not ionizing radiation AND it's low power. Stop spreading baseless FUD hysteria.
Non-ionizing radiation does not mean harmless radiation. Low power radiation could be quite harmful when exposure in 24x7 for long term. Power levels reduces probability of DNA damage but if exposure is long term then it’s cumulative effect. People living near cell phone antennas have severe health issues and even phone companies don’t debate this. They are required to put health hazard warning around those antennas…
Please describe by which mechanism dna molecules are damaged by non ionizing radiation (e.g. a cell phone tower).
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#49“The new 5G wireless technology involves millimeter waves (extremely high frequencies) producing photons of much greater energy than even 4G and WiFi. Allowing this technology to be used without proving its safety is reckless in the extreme, as the millimeter waves are known to have a profound effect on all parts of the human body.” -Prof. Trevor Marshall, Director Autoimmunity Research Foundation, California
Nobody gives a shit.
Re: The Terrifying Potential of 5G
#50“The new 5G wireless technology involves millimeter waves (extremely high frequencies) producing photons of much greater energy than even 4G and WiFi. Allowing this technology to be used without proving its safety is reckless in the extreme, as the millimeter waves are known to have a profound effect on all parts of the human body.” -Prof. Trevor Marshall, Director Autoimmunity Research Foundation, California
Also, spamming the thread with multiple unsubstantiated posts in the hope that one of them sticks is not at all the behaviour of a crank. The problem I have with this is that if at one point in the future there is indeed a health risk and skepticism is required, such position will be undermined by years of publishing/posting nonsense like these, where the same pseudo-scientific bullshit is repeated over and over for 2G, 3G, 4G, 5G, etc.
As a side note, I used to work in the telecom industry for a decade, sometimes having dozens of mobile phones tested in a day, and at some point using a test antenna. You can bet your ass that I kept myself informed with health risks and would have found something else to do had there been any doubt. So would have my colleagues, and so would have consultants that could have walked out on a dime. Like many people in that space I worked for an independent mid-sized company: to think that tens of thousands of people in that industry, scattered among many independent entities, would let themselves be exposed to radiation risks and that they would not say anything is just dumb.