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The Terrifying Potential of 5G

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Re: The Terrifying Potential of 5G

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Thousands of studies link low-level wireless radio frequency radiation exposures to a long list of adverse biological effects, including: DNA single and double strand breaks. Oxidative damage. Disruption of cell metabolism. Increased blood brain barrier permeability. Melatonin reduction. Disruption to brain glucose metabolism. Generation of stress proteins. Let’s not also forget that in 2011 the World Health Organiza…

You also get EM radiation from the electric wiring in your house, lightbulbs, the sun and so on. It's also about the strength of that EM radiation that determines is if it's harmful. To compare, your wifi router does a max of 4000mW transmission, which is 4W

4watt routers ??? Where

The most I found was 1 watt which is allowed by the FCC

Re: The Terrifying Potential of 5G

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You also get EM radiation from the electric wiring in your house, lightbulbs, the sun and so on. It's also about the strength of that EM radiation that determines is if it's harmful. To compare, your wifi router does a max of 4000mW transmission, which is 4W

The 50/60hz wiring radiation is a mild annoyance compared to 2.4 and 5Ghz wifi (I prefer 5Ghz because it seems to transfer less heat to my tissues); I sporadically use 4G on my phone so I don't need a permanent wifi installation in my room. Contrarily, I've found that staring into the sun, early in the morning for seconds up to a few minutes, is quite pleasant. If 5G is much worse than 4G I'm literally getting lead-l…

>Contrarily, I've found that staring into the sun, early in the morning for seconds up to a few minutes, is quite pleasant.

Interesting... What've been your findings?

Re: The Terrifying Potential of 5G

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Maybe I’m not forward thinking enough, but I’ve yet to hear any compelling new use cases for 5G. I’m doubtful it’ll be of much use for self-driving cars or robotic surgery, and 4G is more than fast/low latency enough for my phone needs and the needs of most people. I really don’t see how 5G is going to add anywhere close to $12T to the economy.

Re: The Terrifying Potential of 5G

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not ionizing radiation AND it's low power. Stop spreading baseless FUD hysteria.

Non-ionizing radiation does not mean harmless radiation. Low power radiation could be quite harmful when exposure in 24x7 for long term. Power levels reduces probability of DNA damage but if exposure is long term then it’s cumulative effect. People living near cell phone antennas have severe health issues and even phone companies don’t debate this. They are required to put health hazard warning around those antennas…

Citation much needed, for this is contrary to anything I've learned (engineer, have worked with radio and radar systems for years, and the only case that I know that hasn't been debunked was from the crew of an electronic warfare ship.)

I'm not to good with low level stuff but this might go down to the famous wave/particle thing where one of the experiments that supported the particle explanation was that beneath a certain energy the radiation would not ionize a given material, however long they exposed it and however much radiation it was.

(Anyone who knows this better feel free to correct me, this is just what I remember from school when I'm maybe more than twice as old.)

Re: The Terrifying Potential of 5G

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post #24

Maybe I’m not forward thinking enough, but I’ve yet to hear any compelling new use cases for 5G. I’m doubtful it’ll be of much use for self-driving cars or robotic surgery, and 4G is more than fast/low latency enough for my phone needs and the needs of most people. I really don’t see how 5G is going to add anywhere close to $12T to the economy.

Game Streaming (like Google Stadia), AR/VR (because you need to download the models which are usually big).

Accoding to AngelList newsletter that I read: https://sg-mktg.com/MTU1NTYwNzI3Nnw4YzJTNW5sbi1uQW9ScXVCOElJ...

Re: The Terrifying Potential of 5G

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Thousands of studies link low-level wireless radio frequency radiation exposures to a long list of adverse biological effects, including: DNA single and double strand breaks. Oxidative damage. Disruption of cell metabolism. Increased blood brain barrier permeability. Melatonin reduction. Disruption to brain glucose metabolism. Generation of stress proteins. Let’s not also forget that in 2011 the World Health Organiza…

You also get EM radiation from the electric wiring in your house, lightbulbs, the sun and so on. It's also about the strength of that EM radiation that determines is if it's harmful. To compare, your wifi router does a max of 4000mW transmission, which is 4W

Where are you getting that information from ? My outdoor Wifi CPE has maximum Tx Power of 23dBm which is about 200mW, which gives me signal strenght of -65dBm and my internet tower is approx 6Km far.

I think you have typo on the decimal points on the watts.

Re: The Terrifying Potential of 5G

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I'll tell you more. Earth is heated by an ongoing nuclear fusion reaction which emits a wide spectrum of radiation between 430-770THz. The radiation density during daytime is about 1KW/m^2, and some of it is proven to directly cause cancer. Is that "terrifying" enough?

Ladies and Gentlemen of the class of '99 Wear Sunscreen If I could offer you only one tip for the future, Sunscreen would be it The long term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists

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Re: The Terrifying Potential of 5G

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not ionizing radiation AND it's low power. Stop spreading baseless FUD hysteria.

Non-ionizing radiation does not mean harmless radiation. Low power radiation could be quite harmful when exposure in 24x7 for long term. Power levels reduces probability of DNA damage but if exposure is long term then it’s cumulative effect. People living near cell phone antennas have severe health issues and even phone companies don’t debate this. They are required to put health hazard warning around those antennas…

If you're talking to a person 1m away from you, both of you can whisper. If you're 50m away, both of you need to shout.

It's similar to radio transmission.

The closer some base station antenna is, the lower the power your smartphone needs to reach the base station. Having many base stations reduces the effective field power.

Modern LTE and 5G also has something that is called beamforming. Instead of shouting in all directions, the base station restricts the radio signal to the direction of the smartphone. Other won't hear the noise.

It's not correct that "faster data" means there's more "EM things" around us. Basically we use the radio transmission more efficiently.

tldr: if you wanna avoid radiation, be close to a base station where powersaving kicks in.

Re: The Terrifying Potential of 5G

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post #9

I'll tell you more. Earth is heated by an ongoing nuclear fusion reaction which emits a wide spectrum of radiation between 430-770THz. The radiation density during daytime is about 1KW/m^2, and some of it is proven to directly cause cancer. Is that "terrifying" enough?

Ladies and Gentlemen of the class of '99 Wear Sunscreen If I could offer you only one tip for the future, Sunscreen would be it The long term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists

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