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EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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Re: EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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Where do I opt out? As a EU citizen my rights are protected by GDPR yes?

Sort of. But there is no penalty for governments if they break the regulation. Only companies are fined for breaking the regulation.

Couldn’t you still get compensated for it? Assuming it went to trial and you won.

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In the section for 'Schengen Border Checks', under the image of the Russian passport, there is a picture of a scowling Gérard Depardieu[1], which is a thinly veiled attempt at a display of mirth and disdain in equal parts, by the Directorate General of EU Commission - Migration and Home Affairs. Although, his body of work and extracurricular activities could provide a further source of fodder for ridicule. However, i…

"We don't care if you object and irrespective of your views, this project is going ahead."

The EU seems to have done this for at least twenty-five years, the prime example being their stubborn insistence on monetary union despite the mountains of expert opinion saying that monetary union made no sense economically.

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Today you are one of the lucky 10000: https://biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/huxley-vs-orwell-the-webc...

I don't think there was much of a difference. Effectively BNW=1984+drugs, but because there are no such drugs, 1984 is the only implementable option, pseudo-BNW is unsustainable, doesn't solve their problems and so is just a detour, because they couldn't go 1984 directly due to technical problems.

> because there are no such drugs

ISTM the advertising, entertainment and social-media industries are aiming to fulfil much of the role of BNW's drugs, and the pharmaceutical companies can probably cover most of the gaps.

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Have you read "Brave New World"? Genetically engineered people, sorted into categories of capabilities, with all their needs for happiness provided, including recreational drugs.

> sorted into categories of capabilities Artificially and massively genetically engineered and bred into categories, not sorted. It's an important distinction.

This is a better description indeed.

Re: EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read "Brave New World"? Genetically engineered people, sorted into categories of capabilities, with all their needs for happiness provided, including recreational drugs.

> sorted into categories of capabilities Artificially and massively genetically engineered and bred into categories, not sorted. It's an important distinction.

So today, even if we haven't gone far down the genetic engineering path yet, we do have the tools for massive-scale social engineering. I wonder which will prove the more critical enabling factor for our very own dystopia?

Re: EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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In the section for 'Schengen Border Checks', under the image of the Russian passport, there is a picture of a scowling Gérard Depardieu[1], which is a thinly veiled attempt at a display of mirth and disdain in equal parts, by the Directorate General of EU Commission - Migration and Home Affairs. Although, his body of work and extracurricular activities could provide a further source of fodder for ridicule. However, i…

I don't see the point of disdain, Depardieu is a relatively well known Russian citizen and also a French public figure, so if you want someone from outside of the EU visa agreements, perhaps it's a good example of an individual like that?

In addition, there's substantial pressure from member states to secure the border, and make it as efficient as possible. The governments of Italy and Hungary have practically been screaming about border protection issues. It's not only limited to governments, many national and EP parties have publicly expressed the same viewpoint.

I also don't like these systems because of privacy concerns. But suggesting that it's disdainful or undemocratic, it is not. The democratic process is being followed. Perhaps you're seeing something that is not there, or you just really dislike the EU institutions for some reason.

Re: EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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In the section for 'Schengen Border Checks', under the image of the Russian passport, there is a picture of a scowling Gérard Depardieu[1], which is a thinly veiled attempt at a display of mirth and disdain in equal parts, by the Directorate General of EU Commission - Migration and Home Affairs. Although, his body of work and extracurricular activities could provide a further source of fodder for ridicule. However, i…

>"Smile, you're in Europe!"

This is under a section where they explain how they link your face biometrics into a universal database after taking your fingerprints. Wow.

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I think it was when the wartime id cards where up for renewal the civil service wanted it - but parliament thought it smacked to much of "Gestapo" as Churchill put it.

It was killed by a Motorist refusing to present an ID card to the police, and the resultant court case. That is what lead to Parliament being "forced" to scrap them. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3129302.stm a bit more detail here: http://www.historyandpolicy.org/policy-papers/papers/identit...

Interesting I did not know that

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1984. "Brave New World" doesn't need things like that, it's a much more terrifying future, when everyone is happy in their little golden cage.

Is it though? My reading of Brave New World was that it was at least consensual. I’m after reading Seveneves and I see some parrallels between these societies. In context it really doesnt seem so much sinister as a way for humanity to survive. 1984 was despotic.

Well, manufactured consent at least.

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That would be more close to The Matrix.

Have you read "Brave New World"? Genetically engineered people, sorted into categories of capabilities, with all their needs for happiness provided, including recreational drugs.

I haven't, and it's not the 1st time someone names that book to me, so I have to read it one day. The big problem though will be getting back to narrative; there has been a moment in my life when I got immersed into technical manuals, whether for work or personal projects, and from that moment I stopped completely to read novels: I still have that half read book by Gregory Benford with the bookmark set where I stopped; after that I didn't read a single novel in almost two decades although I was an avid (mostly sci-fi) reader. I don't have an answer for this, it just happened. I hope time will change this.
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