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Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by mathieuh »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #119
jszymborski wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Related to this question: Does Darwin block remote images from loading automatically? I find this is increasingly hard to find (Geary Mail comes to mind) and it's surprising to me.

Thank you for your question :) We block any and all code scripts/styles from executing outside of emails. We don't block images though - if we did then the emails you could usually receive with images will feel plain.. won't it? If I understand you correctly?

I haven’t seen an email with images in years because I always use clients which allow disabling auto-loading.

If I get an email with images it’s usually an email I didn’t want and I block the sender shortly thereafter. Real people don’t tend to send emails with images that are important for understanding the textual content.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by icelancer »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #136
icelancer wrote: post #129

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There is an option to block it in Gmail/Inbox.

That is excellent news. I will look into that. It does not sound like it will be too tricky to implement so expect a quick turn around time :)

Cool - not saying you have to do it like them, but the most popular option there is to block all images globally but allow the person to click a button to unblock images for that specific email, which then enables a dialogue to "always unblock images from this sender."

I like that workflow; may be something to consider. I block all images but allow images from known senders, like my parents or co-workers.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by markovbot »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #94
EduardoBautista wrote: post #91

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The app does need to know what your email address at gmail is in order to work.

Correct! Other than that there is no need to collect much other information at all. Google Analytics is currently how I see how users found DarwinMail & where they came from. Google Analytics also provides info such as users device and browser type. A list of the data Google Analytics collects can be found here: https://www.shivarweb.com/2977/what-does-google-analytics-do Google Analytics is the defacto standard for…

Should probably mention that next you your statement about privacy. I would consider an email service that has Google analytics on it not terribly private

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by leesalminen »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #123
Skywing wrote: post #80

How does the undo send work? Does it store the email on your server for X seconds before dispatching through gmail?

Nope! It doesn't send the email until after 0 - 30 seconds, so you have a chance to undo it :)

So, if I were to close the app at second 17, the email wouldn’t get sent?

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by spectramax »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #140
spectramax wrote: post #89

I really like text-only dense interfaces such as what Sourcehut.org is doing with Git repos. I would love to see this type of minimal interface for email - while others may like background images and such, I prefer text-only sense UI with minimal bloat for speed! Seriously though, DarwinMail is impressive! Could you tell us if custom domains are supported?

That's quite fascinating! Thank you for the interesting perspective :) I will mock up some minimal interface designs. Perhaps a mail distraction free mode (we currently support a distraction-free mode for typing emails). This could be very cool :D Thank you so much! They're not (I don't think ha!). Could you tell me more about how a custom domain would work with DarwinMail?

Custom domain as in, email@mydomain.com.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by vijaybritto »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #121
vijaybritto wrote: post #116

Opening an email with a calendar event in it downloads a file with some meta data. I think this is a bug. I opened a mail from meetup dot com and it downloaded a file multiple times.

That is definitely a bug! Can you tell me more? Perhaps show me your console output? (Right click -> inspect -> click the console tab)

Sorry I'm in mobile now

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by DarwinMailApp »

markovbot wrote: post #153
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correct! Other than that there is no need to collect much other information at all. Google Analytics is currently how I see how users found DarwinMail & where they came from. Google Analytics also provides info such as users device and browser type. A list of the data Google Analytics collects can be found here: https://www.shivarweb.com/2977/what-does-google-analytics-do Google Analytics is the defacto standard for…

Should probably mention that next you your statement about privacy. I would consider an email service that has Google analytics on it not terribly private

It is true that using Google Analytics does sound quite overt.

The question remains, how else can I see where my users are visiting from, what browsers & mobile devices are they using so that I may better tailor DarwinMail?

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by DarwinMailApp »

skunkworker wrote: post #145
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #136

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That is excellent news. I will look into that. It does not sound like it will be too tricky to implement so expect a quick turn around time :)

I believe there are a couple of approaches to this with varying amount of data storage, You can download all images immediately as the email is received (thus preventing image tracking as every image would then be clicked immediately) or have the ability to block all images and selectively turn them on when necessary (unless the image is inline etc).

Thank you so much for your suggestion. This is gold.

I really like your approach to solving the problem.

I have taken note of your suggestions and will look into this further asap :)

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by DarwinMailApp »

icelancer wrote: post #152
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is excellent news. I will look into that. It does not sound like it will be too tricky to implement so expect a quick turn around time :)

Cool - not saying you have to do it like them, but the most popular option there is to block all images globally but allow the person to click a button to unblock images for that specific email, which then enables a dialogue to "always unblock images from this sender." I like that workflow; may be something to consider. I block all images but allow images from known senders, like my parents or co-workers.

Thank you so much for your feedback.

This is a great approach to achieving our goal.

I have taken note of your suggestions and will look into this asap :)

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