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Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by 1123581321 » Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 8:37 PM UTC

teleclimber wrote: post #118

1123581321 wrote: post #93

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You are asking him to do a ton of work and commit to never charging you for anything on the off chance that you might condescend to use his software. It seems like it would be easier for you to just not evaluate new mail clients.

I'm just suggesting that a service that touches email would benefit from being easier to trust. I never said he should commit to never making money or anything close to that. Like you literally invented that. In fact I suggested he look into the open source + hosted business model. Ghost seems to be doing alright with it: https://blog.ghost.org/5/ > It seems like it would be easier for you to just not evaluate new ma…

You said “Yes, if you make it Open Source and possible to self-host it goes from DOA to definitely possible.[...] Hopefully you can still make a living. I suspect "open source + commercially hosted" is a good model for something like this?”

That means that you would not consider using by it unless you could use it for free, presuming you wouldn’t qualify for a commercial license. I only summarized what you said.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by markdown » Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 9:02 PM UTC

no_wizard wrote: post #90

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #84

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You are so right! Thank you for your feedback. Changed it to "Your privacy is important. Darwin will never record, distribute or sell your personal data to any third parties."

Question I have: do you need to actually collect this information at all? I appreciate the no share, but if a service never collects it to begin with then it’s never an issue including if you get hacked for instance. I’m curious not a judgement.

> Question I have: do you need to actually collect this information at all?

In the very comment you're responding to, he says "never record". In this context, this means the same as "never collect".

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by xhgdvjky » Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 9:09 PM UTC

bleuarff wrote: post #38

xhgdvjky wrote: post #37

I probably would have been all for this a few weeks ago. but since trying the Gmail app, all I miss is bundles and the sleek mobile app. this has neither of those. also, is it me, or are you selling the same thing for $3 and for $25?

3$/month or 25$/year. But yes, it's the same plan.

ty missed that

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by DarwinMailApp » Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 9:14 PM UTC

tchaffee wrote: post #128

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #125

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Ohh I see. Like a Facebook Pixels tracking image. No, I don't think that's blocked. Then again, it's not blocked in most email clients, perhaps it's difficult to accomplish. Nonetheless, I've added it to the list of upcoming features as I believe it's worth a shot! Thank you so much for your feedback :)

Thunderbird has the feature. I almost never need to look at in image in an email, unless it's a photo from a friend.

Fantastic, I have an example to learn from :D

Thank you for the tip!

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by OJFord » Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 9:15 PM UTC

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #110

giancarlostoro wrote: post #106

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Pro Monthly and Pro Annually might make more sense or Pro Yearly or whatever.

Ahh yes, of course! Thanks

Show the annual pricing underneath or something, instead of next to it like a separate tier:

    PRO  
    Feature  
    List  
    Here  
    £x  
    >

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by DarwinMailApp » Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 9:16 PM UTC

icelancer wrote: post #129

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #125

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Ohh I see. Like a Facebook Pixels tracking image. No, I don't think that's blocked. Then again, it's not blocked in most email clients, perhaps it's difficult to accomplish. Nonetheless, I've added it to the list of upcoming features as I believe it's worth a shot! Thank you so much for your feedback :)

There is an option to block it in Gmail/Inbox.

That is excellent news.

I will look into that. It does not sound like it will be too tricky to implement so expect a quick turn around time :)

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by city41 » Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 9:33 PM UTC

I'm glad someone is filling this gap. As a huge Inbox fan I'm intrigued. But when Google warns DarwinMail will be able to "View and modify but not delete your email", I don't know if I can take the plunge.

For me, what I really want is reminders integrated into my mail routine (the killer feature of Inbox IMO), and I think that can be done in a way that maintains privacy better.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by DarwinMailApp » Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 9:45 PM UTC

OJFord wrote: post #135

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #110

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Ahh yes, of course! Thanks

Show the annual pricing underneath or something, instead of next to it like a separate tier: PRO Feature List Here £x >

Not a bad idea at all :)

Thank you very much for your suggestion.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by DarwinMailApp » Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 9:52 PM UTC

SpikeDad wrote: post #130

I was totally confused. It has nothing to do with Darwin, the open source components of macOS? And you refer to it as an .app which it isn't? Even more confusing is that you haven't tested it with Safari?

Correct. Correct. Incorrect.

DarwinMail is a mobile responsive web app :)

I have tested DarwinMail with many browsers and found many differences in the way it behaves as many browsers tend to support various types of web functionalities in different ways.

For example, clicking a button in Chrome does not behave the same way as clicking a button in Firefox or Safari.

I have tested so many different behaviours on many different browsers.

I am in the process of cataloguing every specific web functionality I require in DarwinMail and making a chart of those functionalities across several browsers to ensure I know exactly what needs to be tested, what is working and what needs to be fixed.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by DarwinMailApp » Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 9:55 PM UTC

spectramax wrote: post #89

I really like text-only dense interfaces such as what Sourcehut.org is doing with Git repos. I would love to see this type of minimal interface for email - while others may like background images and such, I prefer text-only sense UI with minimal bloat for speed! Seriously though, DarwinMail is impressive! Could you tell us if custom domains are supported?

That's quite fascinating! Thank you for the interesting perspective :)

I will mock up some minimal interface designs. Perhaps a mail distraction free mode (we currently support a distraction-free mode for typing emails). This could be very cool :D

Thank you so much! They're not (I don't think ha!). Could you tell me more about how a custom domain would work with DarwinMail?